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Hi everybody

first off sorry If I posted in a wrong location. Abit new to theese forums.
I have recently started work in a new company and have to my great surprise learned that they use NTbackup for 3 servers with exchange, superoffice (sql), navision (sql) and websites.

This backup are basically running onto a "usb-attached" harddrive which are being swapped around every week.
Imo this way of doing backup seem quite unstable to me and I want to convince my boss into purchasing some proper backup software.

I have tried running the licence wizard but are having trouble figuring out precisely what product to buy and do hope some of the wiser users to comment.

1. server 2003 sbs running ad/dns/gpo/navision/exchange & data storage
2. server 2003 stde running WTS
3. server 2003 stde running superoffice
All running on different hardware (older hardware)

Which products would you recommend we buy? and how is this product better than NTBackup?
what is the advantage of having the "exchange license" ? should we get an SQL license and how is this better than just taking a backup of the database when program are closed?

If we in time decide to get a VmWare enviroment is it possible to upgrade it to the "virtual" edition or is this not neccesary?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 16:29
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>I want to convince my boss into purchasing some proper backup software.
Something along the... plug out the hard drive and tell him 'I'd like to see how you are going to restore it from ntbackup backups" and after one wasted day of unsuccessful attempts here enter you and (previously trained yourself at home in your spare time all the week before) back it up(plugged the original HDD back) and restore it in no time! Or he tells you to rather use existing tools or else...

All I will say is regarding Backup & Recovery 10, not for Recovery for Exchange or Recovery for MS SQL.

>If we in time decide to get a VmWare enviroment is it possible to upgrade it to the "virtual" edition or is this not neccesary?

One Advanced Server license permits up to four virtual machine on the same host, while Vitual Edition permits 99. There is no 'upgrade' license to upgrade ABR AS to ABR AS VE, but you probably will be able to return it and repurchase VE if necessary, but for three servers you have AS seems to be enough when all of them are virtualized, however - (http://www.acronis.com/support/eula-corp.html)

The Virtual Edition license allows migration of unlimited number of physical servers to the host server for Virtual Machines.

with VE you can migrate them to the virtual host with one license, but with AS you (legally) can't.
Recovery for Exchange is a separate product (available in SBS edition cheaper than the 'standard' one) http://www.acronis.com/smb/products/ARExchange/features.htm
*Granular Restore: Recover a mail server, mailbox, or single mail message.
* Near Continuous Data Protection of Logs: Automatically backup the Exchange transaction logs as they become available.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 19:40
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Hello and thanks for your great responses ... I hope you will have patience for commenting on some extra questions and confirm my thoughts...

I can understand why we need the plugin for exchange but for our SQL (CRM/navision) but i suspect we "just" can continue to take an offline backup of thoose ... since no changes are made to this in "out of office hours".

So we buy

1. ABR AS SBS @ 500$
2. ABR x 2 for the other two servers á $850
for a total of approx $2200
This will give us backup of two standard servers, exchange & dc

when we do our reinstall of the entire enviroment (its quite fubar) on virtual we return the above mentioned licenses and get the
ABR AS for the backup of 1 physical server and 4 virtual servers
ABR Exchange for SBS for the exchange
Continue with "offline" backup of the two SQL applications
This will give us a cost of approx $1700

DO we know what Acronis's return policy are when we "return" the first few licenses and get the others if possible?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 22:15
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>when we do our reinstall of the entire enviroment (its quite fubar) on virtual we return the above mentioned licenses and get the
ABR AS for the backup of 1 physical server and 4 virtual servers

From somewhat related KB article - "You would like to get a different product of the same price" from http://kb.acronis.com/content/14747 not entirely fits this description - because the resulting price is lower than initial.

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 00:01