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Have a system I need to restore.. so one would think this is a simple task.

I boot into the Acronis Recovery, wiped hard drive, connect up to my acronis account, find the system, select and let 'er rip... next morning, stuck at 147gb of 154gb.. no movement for an hour after that..uh oh stuck..

Fine, lets look at other options and I find this wonderful tool called the Acronis Cloud Backup Download.. Fantastic, I'll run this, download all my backups, put them on a NAS and restore from there... fire it up.. login good... "You don't have any cloud backups".. um pretty sure i do.

Open up support ticket.. always a useless adventure.. Not even an attempt to fix my problem, I'm told to "download the files you need from the online download".. *face palm*...

Is this downloader a true thing? does it actually work?

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Dear Todd McCartney,
Thank you for reaching out and welcome to Acronis public Forums.
We have prioritized your case in our internal system and support engineers will contact you soon.

Todd, as you are aware this tool only works with disk and partitions backups. But there is a gotcha; it only works with backups that use the current architecture for such backups. I have some backups made with the old architecture, and they were not listed when I looked. These older backup tasks do not presumably use the *.tibx architecture. Unfortunately, this limitation is not mentioned in the documentation - however I am sure we were told of the limitation when doing the beta testing.

Ian

 

Thanks Ian,

These backups were under the new architecture, dating April '22 which i'm trying to restore. They are full partition and disk backups...

Thanks for the additional information. This is not looking good. I have successfully restored from the cloud using rescue media several times (most recently with upgrade to Windows 11 went pear shaped). It is much easier to do a restore using local backup (USB drive or NAS) but there are occasions when this is not available (often due to user inattention or occasionally due to Acronis throwing a hissy fit).

For the moment I am out of ideas.

Ian

Since I've yet to receive an "escalated" response from the support team, I took the following steps:

1. Cleared all partitions

2. Reinstalled windows

3. Installed Cyberprotect and issued restore partition

4. This started 36 hours ago. In the first 24 hours it completed 148gb of 153.5

5. In the past 12 hours it has now only moved 3gb from from 148 to 150.9gb restored... WTF?

I have a 1.5Gbit bi-directional fiber connection, so please no one tell me "go to speedtest.net and check your download speed" I'm connected to my router on a 10Gbit connection through a 10Gbit hub, to the 10Gbit port on my router, through a 10Gbit connection to the Fiber ONT.

Something is either flawed in the restore process or the throttling on the download is very tight after you've exceeded a certain amount. This is EXACTLY why i moved to AOMEI Backupper for most other machines. The restor process for a partition with Acronis is hell!

I'm not hopeful when this is done it will actually boot...

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Dear Todd McCartney,
Thank you for sharing the information. Sometimes it takes a little longer to answer than expected to support engineers. We bring apologies for the delay and rely on your understanding.

After 48 hours of restoring, it boots to windows but explorer keeps restarting, making it useless. Safe mod reboot and sfc /scannow don't help, DISM has errors. I need my TIBX files, something is failing during the restore over the internet..

Wiped the disk, and tried just restoring C drive and associated UEFI and recovery partitions.. 18hrs to restore 90gb and the system won't boot.. this software is worthless.

Tood, you are clearly not having a good experience.

These days, for most users, the speed of their internet connection is irrelevant to how long the backup or recovery takes. The process by which backups are stored means that there is a lot of overhead caused by the need to do all the processing locally. This processing has to be done locally as only the user has the encryption key need to decrypt the backup (and I am sure a user like you would have used the best encryption available). In my case it is not unusual for a recovery from the cloud to be an overnight exercise.

Sorry I cannot be of any help; hopefully the Acronis engineers will be able to fix the problem.

Ian

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Dear Todd McCartney,
We are sorry to hear you are disappointed.
We would do our best to help you. We suggest contacting Acronis support with this issue.
 

IanL-S wrote:

Tood, you are clearly not having a good experience.

These days, for most users, the speed of their internet connection is irrelevant to how long the backup or recovery takes. The process by which backups are stored means that there is a lot of overhead caused by the need to do all the processing locally. This processing has to be done locally as only the user has the encryption key need to decrypt the backup (and I am sure a user like you would have used the best encryption available). In my case it is not unusual for a recovery from the cloud to be an overnight exercise.

Sorry I cannot be of any help; hopefully the Acronis engineers will be able to fix the problem.

Ian

Correct I'm not having a good experience.

The restoration effort of backup software should not take weeks. I've attempted this restore no less than 6-7 times now. The software is written to obfuscate any meaningful progress of the recovery process. How's this for poorly written software: the gigabytes restored counter can ONLY support 4 digits, which means when it first starts out you see 0.125gb, and then when it hits 10gb, you start to get say 10.35.. as you hit 100gb you then can only see 100.5.. what happens is you can't tell if there is ANY progress being made because it slowed down so much and it takes so long to just recover 0.1 of a gb.

There is NO indicator of what file is being restored. There is NO indicator of estimated time. There is NO indicator of actual progress being made. Is computer frozen? no idea. Is the restoration actually working? No idea.

On top of that, EVERY effort to restore the system has resulted in an unbootable machine that bootrec, sfc, dism and a host of other MS tools, and 3rd party CAN'T restore the boot.

Next up, remember over 10 days ago they told me they "prioritized" my support on the issue. Get this, the support engineer offers 1 time for a screen share session, I can't make that, and says "oh I'm out of the office for 2 weeks, so let's do this on November 4th".. On top of that despite me asking leaves NO information on what to do next, what logs to collect or anything.

I'm a VP of Customer Support for SAS software. If my engineers behaved like this I'd be out of a job... And the software, don't get me going. After this restore, (if it can EVER be done) Acronis will be removed from the remainder of the machines where I have it installed.

 

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Dear Todd McCartney,
We bring our sincere apologies for the delay in response. Unfortunately, sometimes it takes a little longer to handle some cases. We have also contacted a responsible support manager to handle your case, he will contact you soon. 

Daria Sorokina wrote:

Dear Todd McCartney,
We bring our sincere apologies for the delay in response. Unfortunately, sometimes it takes a little longer to handle some cases. We have also contacted a responsible support manager to handle your case, he will contact you soon. 

Thank you for responding here. "a little longer" is now nearly a month. Your team again failed again: They insisted I needed to wait until November 4th for a remote session. Despite my asking in the ticket how/where to get the log files, that was met with silence.. no reply, so I took it upon myself to find out where the log files are located for the downloader and sent them to the support ticket.

Now that I sent in the log files, and requesting that they look at them and tell me the next steps. I get a random call this evening from Germany asking me to do a remote session.  What? we had that scheduled for November 4th. I was away from my computer and told the agent to check the ticket and look at the logs and have your engineers get back to me.

The saga continues, and not a bit of valuable support from your team.

You clearly don't care about Customer Delight, Average time to Resolution, or any other metric that shows how well your support staff is doing. I'm so disappointed, I'm wondering what else will be botched next. Maybe I'll have a resolution in 2023?

 

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Dear Todd McCartney,

Thank you for the comment. We have forwarded your feedback to the responsible manager and in order to speed up the process the manager asked to contact you as soon as possible. Thank you for collecting logs and the cooperation, our priority engineer will analyze everything and contact you as agreed on November 4th.