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Hi today i made an image of my data drive the original size wasw 127GB after the backup was done i had a look and the T/I 2016 backup file was 180GB?

The partition i backed up had a mixture of word, excel, Mp3, and photos, i understand that Mp3 and photos were alread compressed into Mp3 and jpeg formats

But he rest were just ordanery files

I had the conpression set to normal, so why is the backup larger than the original partition, when i backed up my O/S partition 99GB and the backup image was 64GB a good bit smaqller with T/I set at the same compression

I dont understand why

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Edward, please download the Log File Viewer app and use this to check the messages written in the Service log(s) for your backup of the data drive to see if this offers any explanation for the increased size.

The one option that can cause this is if you select to backup sector by sector, as this then includes all sectors rather than just those containing data.

Ok thanks for the advice but i dont see where to get the log file viewer app

i will check if it was backed up sector by sector but i dont think so

Edward, click on the link in my previous post which will take you to the forum post for the Log File Viewer app where you can download this from.

Ok i have installed the log file viewer app and it has given me a list on the backups but i dont understand what i am looking at

 

Edward, you are welcome to post a copy of the log file to the forum and we can help interpret the contents with you.

In the Log File Viewer app, you can click on the File menu at the top left and take one of the options there to save the log or copy it etc.  See screen shot below:

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Hi is this what you wanted

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<log uuid="7F85002D-EA69-494A-9972-F774C7CB3239" product="True Image" version="19.0" build="6571" task="CED0F32A-3210-4100-B6F7-3FCC72B52259" task_name="PC Data Drive Backup" >
 <event id="1" level="2" module="100" code="0" time="1469077256" message="Backup reserve copy attributes: format tib; need_reserve_backup_copy false;&#32;" />
 <event id="2" level="2" module="100" code="2" time="1469077256" message="Operation PC Data Drive Backup started manually." />
 <event id="3" level="2" module="100" code="0" time="1469077260" message="Backup reserve copy attributes: format tib; need_reserve_backup_copy false;&#32;" />
 <event id="4" level="2" module="316" code="0" time="1469077260" message="Operation: Backup" />
 <event id="5" level="2" module="100" code="11" time="1469077260" message="Priority changed to Low." />
 <event id="6" level="2" module="11" code="1008" time="1469077260" message="&lt;bold>Create Backup Archive&lt;/bold>&lt;endl/>&lt;tabpoint value=30>&lt;indent value=4>From:&#9;&lt;indent value=10>&lt;textcolor value=&quot;navyblue&quot;>Disk 1, Data (F:)&lt;/textcolor>&lt;/indent>&lt;indent value=4>&lt;endl/>To file:&#9;&lt;indent value=10>&lt;textcolor value=&quot;navyblue&quot;>&quot;J:\Data Backup\PC Data Drive Backup.tib&quot;&lt;/textcolor>&lt;/indent>&lt;indent value=4>&lt;endl/>Compression:&#9;&lt;indent value=10>&lt;textcolor value=&quot;navyblue&quot;>Normal&lt;/textcolor>&lt;/indent>&lt;indent value=4>&lt;endl/>Exclude:&#9;&lt;indent value=10>&lt;textcolor value=&quot;navyblue&quot;>Files matching mask&lt;/textcolor>&lt;/indent>&lt;indent value=4>&lt;endl/>Match criterion:&#9;&lt;indent value=10>&lt;textcolor value=&quot;navyblue&quot;>hiberfil.sys, pagefile.sys, $Recycle.Bin, swapfile.sys, System Volume Information, *.tib, *.tib.metadata, *.~, *.tmp, C:\Users\Edward\AppData\Local\Temp, C:\Users\Edward\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache, C:\Users\Edward\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Cache, C:\Users\Edward\AppData\Local\Opera Software, C:\Users\Edward\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles, C:\WINDOWS\CSC&lt;/textcolor>&lt;/indent>&lt;indent value=4>&lt;endl/>&lt;/indent>&lt;endl/>" />
 <event id="7" level="2" module="1" code="504" time="1469077260" message="Pending operation 172 started: 'Creating partition image'." />
 <event id="8" level="2" module="100" code="0" time="1469077284" message="Writing full version to file: PC Data Drive Backup_full_b1_s1_v1.tib" />
 <event id="9" level="2" module="1" code="504" time="1469077297" message="Pending operation 172 started: 'Creating partition image'." />
 <event id="10" level="2" module="1" code="504" time="1469079867" message="Pending operation 172 started: 'Creating partition image'." />
 <event id="11" level="2" module="1" code="504" time="1469084577" message="Pending operation 172 started: 'Creating partition image'." />
 <event id="12" level="2" module="1" code="504" time="1469084577" message="Pending operation 172 started: 'Creating partition image'." />
 <event id="13" level="2" module="100" code="0" time="1469084578" message="The following backups have been successfully created:&lt;endl/>&quot;J:\Data Backup\PC Data Drive Backup_full_b1_s1_v1.tib&quot;" />
 <event id="14" level="2" module="11" code="1026" time="1469084578" message="&lt;bold>Validate Backup Archive&lt;/bold>&lt;endl/>&lt;tabpoint value=30>&lt;indent value=4>Location:&#9;&lt;indent value=10>&lt;textcolor value=&quot;navyblue&quot;>&quot;J:\Data Backup\PC Data Drive Backup_full_b1_s1_v1.tib&quot;&lt;/textcolor>&lt;/indent>&lt;indent value=4>&lt;endl/>&lt;/indent>&lt;endl/>" />
 <event id="15" level="2" module="1" code="504" time="1469084578" message="Pending operation 4 started: 'Validate Backup Archive'." />
 <event id="16" level="2" module="316" code="6" time="1469091155" message="Operation has succeeded." />
</log>
 

Edward, thanks for the log file data, everything looks fine and normal, with no indication of a sector by sector backup being done, so no answer here as to why your backup was so large.

The next step really is to confirm the actual size of your data drive F: to understand that it is the size you think it is.

Please run the msinfo32 program and then take the option to Export this as a text file from the File menu and post the text file to the forum so we can see the information.

Please also post a screen shot of your J:\Data Backup\PC Data Drive Backup_full_b1_s1_v1.tib file size to compare against the msinfo32 data.

Are you using "entire pc" as the backup type or "disks and partions"?  if you used "entire pc" it may be backing up more than one disk instead of just the intended OS disk.  Regarding the 180Gb size, is that the size of the backup .tib file as shown in Windows explorer, or in Acronis?  Could you post some screenshots of your backup settings as well as computer management>>> disk management?

Bobbo_3C0X1 wrote:

Are you using "entire pc" as the backup type or "disks and partions"?  if you used "entire pc" it may be backing up more than one disk instead of just the intended OS disk.  Regarding the 180Gb size, is that the size of the backup .tib file as shown in Windows explorer, or in Acronis?  Could you post some screenshots of your backup settings as well as computer management>>> disk management?

 

No i was not using the entire pc i made sure i used disk and partition backup i did the same as i always do the only differant is it the first time i have used the laters T/I.

 

The size was in windows explorer

By the way i did this backup from within windows should i have used a boot cd

 

 

 

 

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msinfo.txt shows that the F: drive is 1 of 2 partitions on the same physical drive.  Did you do a full disk backup where the F: partition lives?  If so, perhaps it backed up both partitions (as it would if you did a full disk backup) and the resulting 180GB is the combined total of "used data" on both of those paritions and not just that of your F: partition?  

You should be able to double click your resulting .tib file and see what information is listed in the backup to help as well. 

Manufacturer	(Standard disk drives)	
Model	WDC WD7500AAKS-00RBA0 ATA Device	
Bytes/Sector	512	
Media Loaded	Yes	
Media Type	Fixed hard disk	
Partitions	2	
SCSI Bus	1	
SCSI Logical Unit	0	
SCSI Port	4	
SCSI Target ID	0	
Sectors/Track	63	
Size	698.64 GB (750,153,761,280 bytes)	
Total Cylinders	91,201	
Total Sectors	1,465,144,065	
Total Tracks	23,256,255	
Tracks/Cylinder	255	
Partition	Disk #2, Partition #0	
Partition Size	466.08 GB (500,446,527,488 bytes)	
Partition Starting Offset	1,048,576 bytes	
Partition	Disk #2, Partition #1	
Partition Size	232.56 GB (249,707,888,640 bytes)	
Partition Starting Offset	500,447,576,064 bytes

Hi Bobbo_3COX1

Well spotted when i opened the true image backup file i was supprised to see it had not only backed up my data drive it has also backed up my O/S partition.

But i remember deselecting the O/S partition and i doubled checked that, so i will try again tomorrow and see what happens

Thanks guys