Separate folders for each chain like Chain2Gen
In a previous version - 2010, I used C2G which would place each chain in a separate folder, with the most recent chain always being in the same folder (..\set0). I could then set a task on my NAS to copy \set0 to a portable USB drive, and take that off site.
Is there anyway of replicating this behavior in 2016? I have read that C2G will not work properly with 2015, due to unwanted behavior when a backup is deleted.
I am sure I would.
So is there any way of replicating that C2G behavior in 2016?
Not that I am aware of. The scheduling scheme set in the app is not configuarable beyond what the scheduler design allows.
Well, I've got to figure out some method of copying only the latest chain. Backup reserve copy might be an option, but that would mean the backup would take at least twice as long, which is an issue. Hopefully I'll be able to tweak something in my NAS to accomplish that.
So you need to copy a backup chain specifically the latest one to your NAS. So that we are on the same page here you are talking about backup task that is a full followed by number of inc. of diff. which constiktues a backup chain? How many versions of backup chains are defined in the bakcup task.?
What I would like to do is copy the latest backup chain that is on my NAS to an external drive. A chain would be the full version and however many incrementals have been recorded at the time I do the copy.
The backup scheme is defined as
Method: Incremental
Full version after every seven incremental versions
Store no more than three recent version chains.
So at the time I would choose to copy the latest chain from the NAS to the external drive, there might be as many as three chains and 15-21 files in the folder.
With C2G, since eacch chain would be in a separate folder, and the most recent would always be in the same folder, it was trivial to set up a task, using programs that are already on my NAS, to copy that particular folder. It is not so easy to set up a task that will copy only certain files within that folder.
One option might be to get a larger external HD, and still copy the entire folder.
One possibility might be to set up a bat file to do the copy but get the B# as a variable from the user at time of bat running.
One option might be to get a larger external HD, and still copy the entire folder.
2TB hard disks are less than $80. All backups on an external drive is an excellent strategy.
FtrPilot
Ron,
I see what it is you need to do now. I was thinking you could use Robocopy to copy the folder needed accross your network to your external drive when needed. Depending on your requirements a batch file could possibly be created to automate the task.
Have a look at the provided link and see what you think: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ee851678.aspx
For just copying the folder, the Backup utility in my NAS box can do that easily. But with three chains, it takes three times as long, and occupies three times as much space, as with one chain. The space isn't that much of a problem, but the time can be an issue.
It's not so much the cost of a larger drive -- it's more the fact that it will take much longer to make the copy.
I somehow have to automate getting the B#. Under ideal circumstances this copy would start after the nightly backup is completed, which would be about 2-3AM. Hmmm. Since the B# would be known, perhaps I could input that manually sometime during the day.
If I can develop the commands, that might be a viable option. I have to go find my old Linux references now, since the NAS box is Linux based.
Take a good look at the link I provided. You can get a GUI frontend for Robocopy (link to that provided at the bottom the one I provided) that can make script creation easier.
You should not have issue with sending the data to your NAS and it is possible to select specific folders or individual files for copying. Robocopy is quite fast in copying data, it should run at close to the full speed of your network.
Thought you might have some difficulty downloading the Robocopy GUI so here's a link:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/d/0/fd05def7-68a1-4f71-8546-25…
There is another Robocopy GUI known as RichCopy which has a timer feature that you might find useful:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/d/0/fd05def7-68a1-4f71-8546-25…
Thanks to all for your replies.
So far as the suggestions for robo copy, since my external HD will be attached to my NAS, which has Linux operating system, there are various Linux based copy scripts which could be used, and would have the advantage of not requiring my computer to be on.
I am planning to test the Reserve Copy feature with my external HD attached to my NAS. If that proves unsatisfactory, I will just do a file backup with the external HD attached directly to my computer.
The problem with the reserve copy may have to do with deleting the reserve copies. I have read here that, at least in 2015, it was not straightforward.
A potential problem with the file backup scheme has to do with whether a file backup will prevent my next incremental backup from seeing certain files as being "new". I am not sure how TI determines whether to back up a file. If it is looking at dates, then there shouldn't be a problem.
All user maintenance with the reserve copy is manual by the user. The program does not control or delete the backups created via the reserve copy option.
According to a note from Grover, regarding 2015, regarding deleting reserve copies: Your one and only method for individual deletion is to do it manually from within Windows Explorer followed by a start of a manual validation which will prompt you to perform an "ignore error" message--one ignore click for each file deleted.
Is that no longer the case in 2016?
This is what Acronis has to say about deletion.
Yes, I had seen that in the manual. It seems to have to do with deleting the primary backup. My question had to do with deleting just the reserve copy.
All user maintenance with the reserve copy is manual by the user. The program does not control or delete the backups created via the reserve copy option. User must perform the delete manually via Windows Explorer.
Is the point of your repeating your post to indicate that the information provided by Grover for 2015 does not apply to 2016?
I am the same GroverH. I am currently having login problems under my old logim so using a temp login.
Once 2014 was left behind, the program in 2015 and 2016 ceased to provide any means of individual program deletes other than what I repeated.
Anything involving Reserve BAckup is outside the program and it is up to the user on what, when and how deleted.
OK. Guess I misinterpreted what you wrote in that other thread. I am thinking to make this work for me, all I might need to do is write a pre- script to ensure I have enough free space on my portable HD to store the backup. Thanks.