customize installation of TI 2018 or 2017
Is there a way to customize the installation of True Image 2017 or 2018? I noticed that the installation file only says "install". There are no 'advanced options' such as selecting specific Acronis programs to install, or customizing the install folder.
Is there some special way to launch the installer?
can you also comment on customizing which modules get installed.
Acronis True Image installs a lot of things that have nothing to do with backup of folder/files or disk imaging. Does the user have the option to NOT install these programs?
In reply to can you also comment on… by truwrikodrorow…
Hello Jon,
No, the installation is not customizable. After the installation is completed, you can disable the features you do not need in the Windows Services.
In reply to Hello Jon,… by truwrikodrorow…
"you can disable the features you do not need in the Windows Services"
Most vendors that offer a suite like this will make it customizable from the installation. Can you go into more detail as to why you chose to do it this way?
It is not just the HDD/SSD space, but also the effect that different processes can have on system files after they are installed. It may make adverse changes to the system that the user is not prepared for. A little bit more complex than just disabling services. Something to think about.
Jon, see the following KB documents that may help answer some of your questions:
KB 60522: Acronis True Image 2018: Windows services and processes - this will also cover ATI 2017 as Acronis has not produced a separate document for that version.
KB 60190: Acronis True Image 2018: how to disable Active Protection in Windows - this is an integrated new feature in ATI 2018 that is also found in the 2017 New Generation Premium version, but not in 2017 Standard version.
See also the MVP User Tools and Tutorials link in the forums where there are batch files which have been created for the purpose of simplifying / automating the disabling of the various Acronis Services.
"Most vendors that offer a suite like this will make it customizable from the installation. ...
It is not just the HDD/SSD space, but also the effect that different processes can have on system files after they are installed. It may make adverse changes to the system that the user is not prepared for. A little bit more complex than just disabling services. Something to think about."
I'm not sure what you are referring to by "It may make adverse changes to the system that the user is not prepared for" except for AAP action (which I consider appropriate and helpful) and bugs (which would exist with and without customization). What are you referring to.
It is sort of odd that Acronis does not provide customization for unneeded functions during ATI installation. I disable all Acronis services except Scheduler2 AAP, and I have to remember to do that with every upgrade. (Bonjour stays disabled across upgrades.) If Acronis provided such customization we would not have to guess which services were actually critical to ATI operation.
Maybe we should make a formal request for that. Suggesting it on a user's forum does no good.
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What are you referring to.
I'm referring to potential conflicts with other programs, particularly other anti-malware products or system files. The more 'intrusive' the software is, the greater the chance for conflicts. I would never expect a disk cloning software to have anti-ransomware software as part of its main software install. I forgot if there was a total of 5 or 7 different services, not including windows startup modules.
It is sort of odd that Acronis does not provide customization for unneeded functions during ATI installation. I disable all Acronis services except Scheduler2 AAP, and I have to remember to do that with every upgrade. (Bonjour stays disabled across upgrades.) If Acronis provided such customization we would not have to guess which services were actually critical to ATI operation.
You were being polite. It is cheeky to just assume the user wants such a full package, and then tell users to simply disable unwanted services after the fact.
And just install excess programs just for the sake of installing them takes up extra space (minimal damage if its a large HD), could overwrite existing [system/3rd party] files that without specialized software is difficult to reverse. It's overall poor engineering practice.
Maybe we should make a formal request for that. Suggesting it on a user's forum does no good.
Discussing these things on user forum is essential to increase awareness and get workarounds. I didn't realize at first disabling the custom install was intentional, until I read the feedback here. I also didn't know just how many services and startup programs came with ATI 2017 (or 2018)...until I tried. Why is ATI so bloated now?
Not trying to be negative.
" Why is ATI so bloated now? "
The same reason any purchased software becomes bloated: to provide a function that competitive products already have or to provide a function that competitive products don't yet have.
However, I think the though behind AAP is reasonable (at least in part). Protecting Acronis files and functions is not a bad idea; Acronis has no way of knowing whether antimalware software already installed provides adequate protection. I feel less comfortable with other parts of AAP - like the part that detects MBR modification. I assume other antimalware software also does that and the multiple sets of software could trip over each other.
FyI, Acronis top competitor (IMO) is now incorporating ransomeware protection and backup file protection too. It is likely to become a new norm in home backup products as ransomware is only getting worse.