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Is 2019 worth getting?

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Have been using Acronis TI forever. Not especially interested in new bells and whistles unless they are really useful. Most interested in reliability. Any opinions?

Thanks,

Al

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Alan, this is very much an individual decision point and if you are happy with the version of ATI that you have and this is working as you need it / want it to do, then the answer to your title question may well be No!

You haven't said exactly what your current version of ATI is nor what version of Windows OS you are using, or what type of computer environment this is all working in?

For users working with cutting edge technologies (the latest, greatest bits & pieces), then the benefits of moving to ATI 2019 is in the support for such new components, hardware etc.

Microsoft keep moving the goal posts with each new edition of Windows 10, and this is likely to continue happening with the expected casualties among older versions of some products, so what works today may not do so after the next Autumn / Fall Creators version of Windows 10...!

The main extras with ATI 2019 are the introduction of the 'Survival Kit' option as a nice to have but definitely not an essential feature, improvements to backup performance, in particular with focus on to the Acronis Cloud, and the continuing development of the Acronis Active Protection (against ransomware) feature.  With ATI 2018 and later, Acronis have started the move away from using the Linux version of Rescue media by default, and will now try to create Windows PE media where this is possible (using the Windows 10 recovery environment to do s.o)

As an IT consultant I have clients on Windows 7, 8, 10 and even two still on XP.  My personal computer is Dell Optiplex 7000 series I5 with Windows 10 Pro, 16GB of RAM and a Samsung NVME drive. I'm running Acronis 2017.  My customers are mostly running Acronis 2017 and 18 with a smattering  still running 2016. I have disabled the ransomware protection on all of them because I don't trust it. I think Acronis should stick with its basic product and do a good job with that. Also I have malwarebytes which has its own ransomware protection. 

Thanks,

Al

Alan Silverman wrote:

As an IT consultant I have clients on Windows 7, 8, 10 and even two still on XP.  My personal computer is Dell Optiplex 7000 series I5 with Windows 10 Pro, 16GB of RAM and a Samsung NVME drive. I'm running Acronis 2017.  My customers are mostly running Acronis 2017 and 18 with a smattering  still running 2016. I have disabled the ransomware protection on all of them because I don't trust it. I think Acronis should stick with its basic product and do a good job with that. Also I have malwarebytes which has its own ransomware protection. 

Performance and reliability.  Not necessary performance to the cloud.  I use iDrive for that.  But performance in that it doesn't slow down my clients computers and reliable so it works all the time.  If I feel that an version of Acronis really improves those I'd go to it and get all my clients on it also. So far, through many versions I haven't found one that does what I really want it to. In fact some newer versions have backslid. They are worse than the ones that came before.

Thanks,

Al

Al, I am not a salesman (and have never wanted to be one) so have no vested interest in pushing ATI 2019.

Personally, I prefer the new GUI with the 2018 / 2019 versions, in particular the Activity page to show at an easy glance how the tasks have been working.

I also have the Acronis Active Protection feature enabled alongside my own security suite and have not found any performance or other impact of doing so, though I do understand the concern when using other ransomware protection products.  My understanding is that Acronis are not the only backup & recovery company bringing this type of feature into their applications, so this is probably being driven by competitive pressures as much as anything else!  Users in these forums have asked Acronis to consider a more modular installation approach to allow selection of features such as AAP but so far this has been rejected.

I’ve been quite satisfied with the system backups of ATI 2013 and earlier on Windows 7, but totally dissatisfied with the Nonstop Backup, which used to stop (sic) without warning. It has never been reliable. I can’t figure out if this bad function was totally dropped, if it was replaced by something more reliable or if it’s still present.

On the other hand, I don’t care about cloud options.

Would you recommend to upgrade to ATI 2019 and why?

Cyprien, welcome to these public User Forums.

Non Stop Backup is still very much an option with ATI 2019 and earlier versions back to your 2013.  I cannot really comment very much on how NSB works as it is not a function that I actually need to use other than for brief periods of testing and my most frequent backups are normally just once per day.

There are comments earlier in this topic about the benefits of upgrading from an early version such as 2013 to 2019.  There are significant changes to the main GUI but overall it is well worth upgrading from a version as old as 2013 for the better support for newer hardware and compatibility with Windows 10.  You haven't mentioned if you have updated from Windows 7 but only ATI 2015 or later are supported for use when installed on Windows 10, where ATI 2019 will have the most up to date support for such as the Windows 10 October 18 Update build recently re-released by Microsoft.

Thank you. I prefer Windows 7 over 10. Therefore I reckon ATI 2019 is still not for me, unless the Nonstop Backup finally works and if I am supposed to pay for the correction of a function that was supposed to work from the beginning.

Like Steve, I do not use non-stop backup regularly - limited testing during beta for 2019 with cloud backup (they changed the way NSB works when backing up to the cloud). That takes has been working without apparent problems since the start of beta testing several months ago.

I have a dim recollection that a local folders and files backup to my NAS on a different computer had some issues. They may have had something to do with the October 2019 Windows 10 update.

Ian

One option here would be to download a 30-day Trial copy of ATI 2019 and give this a test using NSB to see if it now meets your needs in terms of reliability etc.  Make a full backup of your OS drive before doing so so that you can revert back as needed, unless you have another computer for doing testing.

I installed a trial version of ATI 2019 and I couldn’t find the Nonstop Backup. Also, it found the previous NSB files from ATI 2013 but it didn’t know what to do with them. It only offered to create incremental backups of my files as .tib backups, which is no different than what previous versions of ATI did. ATI became such a monster just to run computer maintenance: over 1.5 GB of installed files! It looks like you should buy a computer just to let it run its own maintenance nowadays. Unfortunately many of my preferred software came to the same path recently. At some point they have to understand that they attained more or less their purpose and if they want to extend beyond this scope they will alienate their previous loyal users. This is the signal for me that it’s time to look for alternative software that won’t become another memory hog for the next foreseeable future.

To understand how Nonstop Backup works under ATI 2019 it may be worthwhile looking at the ATI 2019 user guide: "3.6 Using Acronis Nonstop Backup". You can download the user guide from here. One thing potentially enlightening statement is "You can create only one nonstop backup".

I can never remember how to configure NSB. You create a backup task, selecting source and destination, then you click on the Schedule Tab and one of the options is NSB (in the example below I am backing up to Acronis Cloud).

NostopBackup.jpg

Ian

ATI became such a monster just to run computer maintenance: over 1.5 GB of installed files!

Where did you get that number? My ATI has 585MB of program files and 227MB of AppData. The AppData, of course, can vary a lot between installations because of the logs and configuration data contained.

Are you including the .tib files in that 1.5GB? They will obviously depend on what you are backing up. 1.5GB would be pretty small for full system backups. (I've got close to 2 TB of .tib backup files.)

Patrick, you missed a big piece of the puzzle at C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis. I see 717MB there.

You're right; I missed that.   Mine is only 383MB but if yours is 717MB then its size is obviously installation dependent.