ATI 2019 usb boot, when clicking Recover option, it goes into a searching for .tib mode - How To Stop!
Right after I boot the ATI 2019 boot disk, when clicking the Recover option, it goes into a searching mode looking for all the tibs I have. I have well over a hundred tibs saved in various folders on my different drives connected, and I know what I want to browse to and get it - I don't need this ATI usb boot taking up resources every time I boot her up and list every tib I have that it can see, which creates this ridiculously long list of tibs!
I prefer to use ONLY the Browse button to find what I want, and only list the .tibs that I click in to see.
All my other versions of ATI from 2018/2017/2016 ...all the way back to the year 2003 with v6.0.350 does not do this auto index on the usb booter !
How Can I Stop This Searching on my TI 2019 USB booter? I'd have to edit something within there, prolly not easy, but it's just a nit pick I have about this 2019 doing that which is very annoying.
I do Not want this '2019' ATI booter taking the time to index all my tibs every time I boot the ATI usb stick
Is There A way to Stop it?
Thank You


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Hi Steve, Thanks for your reply.
Every year one of the newer engineers there come up with these new bright ideas, we have all gone though this time and time again over the years - some of them of course are great ideas, and some of them are just frilly unnecessary stUff - I'm getting numb to it. I try and flow with all the changes.
I also have my favorite years of TI versions too.
Anyway, technically, there is a way to do it! ...I just don't know what it is yet, but admit it's a bit over my head to figure out what do myself.
Hopefully someone very capable will come up with a way and share - I'm all ears.
But in the meantime I hear what you are saying, it's logical, but I keep all my images on 6 TB drives now and the tibs have sure accumulated after all these years, I want every one of them, and so it's a search Frenzy for the 2019 booter each time to search them, a royal p.i.t.a. imho ..
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One possibility would be to remove the HDD with older *.tib files from the computer and only install them when needed. Alternatively use USB drives. It occurs to me that Acronis only searches local drives, so an ideal solution may be to have the "archived" *.tib files on a NAS. Possibly a lot safer as well.
Ian
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Thanks for the reply Ian,
As I already explained is that I keep all my backup images for the last dozen or so years on 6 TB USB drives for convenience and easy access, probably 200 tibs, and so, I already know and see and experience that yes it does search not only those USB drives but Also the local HD as well.
-------Next Day Edit: Ian, I apologize, it does not 'auto search' my 6TB USB drives on the booter, you are right. It only searches connected local HD's of which I had some - it was such a long list to scroll them all and took so long, and I saw some .tibs that I had on the 6TB too and so I just assumed - sorry about that guys. This auto indexer on the booter should be turned OFF though! ..imho it is very problematic, 2018 and earlier work just fine! Dump the indexer!
I noticed something else just now that is borked on the 2019 booter GUI, is that some of my much older .tibs where I had put comments on them ...well in this indexing process the 2019 booter does when it encounters those tibs with comments, it extends the GUI so far out to the right I can't even find the Browse button so easily, it messes the GUI out of sorts, and it takes so long to list all the tibs I have it hangs up (cache buffer too small) and extends the time to be able to even start any work to restore, so it's really a poor idea to have this auto search deal; actually a really bad idea. Not very professional like this. 2018 and earlier booters are fine with this issue, I just doubled checked - so remove the auto search indexer on 2019 booter!
I don't want to to use a NAS to solve this problem per your suggestion for local HD's. I'll just stay away from 2019 for now until we find a way to shut off the boot disk automatic index search.
Thank you again for your reply and interest.
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Rick, thank you for raising this topic and sharing details on your setup - I've added a ref to this discussion to an existing change request (internal ID TI-59841 "Add an option to customize db_scan.exe routine")
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Thank you Ekaterina and for your interest.
I would also ask that this request:
internal ID TI-59841: "Add an option to customize db_scan.exe routine"
..be given to the Windows installation as well, and not just the USB boot which btw is Paramount it needs to be done on the USB boot for so many Valid reasons - it's a no brainer!
Actually and quite frankly, the search .tib indexer routine, on All medias, by default, should be set to OFF! Please pass this on to those that are in charge and have the power of decision.
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Rick - I agree and have been asking for this for some time now! I believe that the option should be off by default as well, but upon first use of True Image, it should ask the user to select locations to automatically import or ignore. That way, they can scan and import exactly what they want. This should be a user-specific configuration (with the default of no import) and one that can be configured/modified in the Windows GUI for the desktop and recovery applications. Glad it's getting a little more attention lately because the scanning and import behavior on new installs and repair installs is a real mess when there are multiple historical backups that have to be manually removed from the console again :).
Ekaterina, thanks for the change request on the scan behavior routine. I hope this is all captured in it. Basically though, just let the users pick and choose what to scan, or not and make it part of the configuration that they can customize whenever they need to.
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I am in full agreement with Bobbo on the points he mentions. I too have made my views known about the problematic implementation when doing a reinstallation of ATI.
So +1
Ian
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+1 from me to make this controllable by the user.
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Thank you guys! I hope we'll be able to improve the scan routine in the upcoming major version of Acronis True Image
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Ekaterina,
...It's been nearly 7 months now!
..have your heard anything constructive yet to have fixed this problem since your last post?
fwiw, I have not tested any version since then, because of the severity of this problem!
I'm looking forward to the time when this has been fixed, so that I can move forward..
Thank you
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Rick, I. The current release of ATI 2020, backups do not seem to automatically be added in the GUI. There is still no option to choose what to automatically backup or not though... It just seems it's been disabled.
Unfortunately, the rescue media does still scan and add backups so it is still pretty slow.
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Bobbo_3C0X1 wrote:Unfortunately, the rescue media does still scan and add backups so it is still pretty slow.
If it does not work on the USB booter made from the installed program - then it's still not fixed.
Hopefully the programmer responsible for this actually even uses this program themselves, because it does not seem like it ! ..this is less than ideal (and I am being polite about it) ...It seems like they don't even understand the problem!
As I said in one of my previous posts besides turning this .tib indexing function off in Windows, but it's Paramount it needs to be done on the USB booter as well for so many Valid reasons. The search .tib indexer routine should be turned Off on All medias by default, but especially the USB booter!
Ekaterina, please pass this on to those that are in charge and have the power of decision to make this needed change; please have them come and read this thread and reply.
Thank you
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Ekaterina, or Bobbo
Has there been any more progress on this unnecessary searching issue, particularly with the USB boot rescue media?
Does the latest versions still do this unnecessary searching as per my post #1, post #4 and post #6
Thanks again Bobbo for your reply on your post #12 - has there been any more progress from your last report?
I have not tested any version since then because of how undesirable this is! ..so I'm still back using Acronis True Image 2017 b8058 - I'll never give up because Acronis is my favorite.
Thank you,
Rick
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Hello Rick,
the auto-search was disabled in the desktop version of Acronis True Image, but it still is enabled in the bootable media. I've raised the topic to the product management for my colleagues to reconsider the current logic.
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Hello Ekaterina ,
Thank you! for your reply, and again thank you for getting it done on the Desktop version.
I am concerned product management does not realize to follow through with fixing it for the USB boot stick created with the program itself - which is so crucial! ..I just can't express all of the reasons why this is, and it makes me think that whomever is in charge of this does not actually use the program this way <said with most respect> If they could see what it does first hand, they would not want the product leaving the building without this bug disabled. (..it will take just a few clicks in the code to turn it off) The search .tib indexer routine should be turned Off Especially on the USB booter!
If there is Anything I can do to help please let me know, and again thank you for your reply, I do appreciate it! ...it seems you (and some senior members here who have the power of change) are our only hope here to see this through!
THANK YOU !
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