Question
IS this release the Beta2 or an update from beta 2
Thanks
This is the official public release (beta is closed and over at this point).
Pete, this is a new build version #20600 which will require either a subscription license or else a new license for your previous perpetual version if just participating in the ATI 2020 Beta.
The general recommendation is to uninstall the beta then install the general release version but it will also work as an upgrade from the beta 2 build.
Hi Steve
Finally someone read the question. So it is a new build. I may trial it, as Beta 2 was a performance disaster for me.
Thanks.
Pretty sure it was answered before. If you were wanting to know the specific version, you should be more clear. Plus, the info is out there too. If you're wanting others to find info for you, be clear in your exact requests.
FYI, the original sticky post answered this already quite clearly.
https://forum.acronis.com/forum/acronis-true-image-2020-forum/acronis-true-image-2020-available
Some software vendors repackage the final Beta code as the GA version of a product. Acronis does not do that. The GA code is an updated version of the last Beta release. The good news: it has more fixes. The bad news: it hasn't been run by the Beta testers.
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:The good news: it has more fixes. The bad news: it hasn't been run by the Beta testers.
Yes definitely a mix of good and bad news. And it has invariably been the way that new ATI versions are released.
I have a dim recollection that once the final beta was also the release versions; but that would have been a long time ago.
Also, invariably there is a second release early on in the product cycle. For 2018 and 2018 the second release was within 2 months.
Ian
Thanks all. Although the release version is a bit better it is still a performance disaster for me. All the extra time is in the "preparing" stage. Certainly not worth money. Hopefully update 1 will be better.
Pete, whilst the initial preparing time seems longer for my backups, the actual overall time to complete the backups doesn't reflect an increase in time for me (that I have noticed!).
I have mixed feelings on it. It still feels fairly snappy, but I do see long times "preparing" too. And as noted in the beta by myself and others, the speeds for incremental and differential backups are proportionally much slower than the original fulls. Here are my tests and results from 2 tests yesterday. Note how much longer (in comparison based on the amount backed up and the time it takes to backup that small amount) for each incremental and differential, when compared to the original full.
What I've seen is:
2019 Full total time 21 minutes, incremental 3-5 minutes
2020 Full total time 30 minutes incrementals 11 minutes.
Not exactly an incentive to upgrade.
Pete, are these times for the same backup types, i.e. the 2019 backups carried forward and run in 2020, or did you create new backups in 2020? Are they also for Disk backups?
The first image below shows my old style .tib disk backup performance in 2020.
The second image shows my new style .tibx disk backup performance.
There are only slight differences shown here. Both backups are for exactly the same source drive though the dates are not identical.
Steve,
I'd agree that many people may not notice a huge difference in performance, especially with newer hard drives (fast SATA 3 SSD or PCIe NVME) and good CPU's.
However, it is pretty noticeable on older hardware and/or if someone is doing large backups where they are going to take several minutes or hours even in the old format.
In your original .tib backup screenshot, speeds are roughly about 1,000Mbps (sometimes a little faster, sometimes a little slower) for all backups in that task - the full and incrementals.
In the new .tibx backup screenshot, your fastest speed is the full, but at about -40% being only about 600Mbps, when compared to 1000Mbps. And your incrementals are nowhere near 1,000Mbps anymore, with the highest only being about 300Mbps (-70%) and the very lowest being only 9Mbps.
That's pretty significant.
Rob, there are other factors involved here than just the different file types (.tib versus .tibx).
The older scheme works in a different way to the new scheme as shown by the different programs that are used. The log files also show this where the ti_demon log for the .tib backups still show detailed information but not for .tibx backups as this detail is now in the Backup_Worker log instead.
What I am saying is that we are not comparing Apples with Apples here!
Agreed. But I still think the performance is a pretty big hit. Speed has been one of the key points in previous versions and I'm not sure that still holds up. I'll eventually do some side by side comparisons with a couple of other products too as Acronis has pretty much always win in my speed tests, but I don't that will be the case this time. For me, it's not a huge issue since my local backups aren't too huge and I'm working with pretty decent hardware, but on my old laptop, which is the only one I've upgraded to for now, it's pretty noticeable when the incrementals and differentials are running and this is very minor changes with nearly back to back test runs.
Hello, Steve and Bob
I didn't see any real significant speed improvement with the final release of 2020. I was really disappointed in the differential backup speeds that I tested on several occasions. The initial full backup speed was ok but subsequent differentials were awful. As with any new release, you expect some bumps in the road but what I have seen so far was not what I expected from Acronis.
My decision was to uninstall 2020 and wait until I see more positive remarks in the forum and try again.
In the meantime, I'll use an earlier version of Acronis for my full backups along with a couple of other "snappy" and trusted backup systems.
Steve F.
Steve F. I'm doing the same. Keeping 2019 on my main rig (for now) and chugging along with 2020 on my old backup laptop for testing and to see if it improves.
Definitely no discernable increase in speed. All my critical local backup are still configured using ATI 2019 but run under 2020.
Ian