True Image 2020 build 38600 Two problems.

Oskar, welcome to these public User Forums.

Acronis Startup Recovery Manager (ASRM) that gives the F11 boot option uses a small Linux based recovery environment which has a number of limitations regarding modern computer components.

KB 58006: Acronis software: NVMe drives in RAID mode are not detected by Linux-based bootable media and Acronis startup recovery manager

KB 46250: Acronis Linux-based Bootable Media: Troubleshooting USB HID Devices Detection Issues

KB 45330: Acronis Bootable Media Does Not Detect HDD, RAID or NIC

KB 45331: Acronis Bootable Media(Linux-based): Troubleshooting NIC Detection

KB 59947: Acronis True Image Linux-based bootable media boots into black screen after selecting any option in the option menu

Acronis only officially support their latest Acronis Cyber Protect Home Office (ACPHO) product for use with Windows 11 and have done no testing of earlier / older versions of ATI such as 2020 with that OS version.

Personally, I only ever use Validation of my backup tasks as a separate operation and only when needed.  I never include validation with my backup tasks as it typically doubles the time needed for backup operations and adds no real value!

Thank you for your comprehensive answer.  Very clear. Maybe I do not understand everything, because it is described very professionally.  But simple questions come to mind.  And it is a pity that it does not interact with Win 11, as I understood, it was not tested as you Write.  The first question is, is it similar in version 2021?  Will making a botable flash drive and applying it at the time of failure and the desire to restore a backup start?  Like those not working with F11?  Because installing from a pendraiva win 11, then installing Akronis, and then recovering from a backup is a massacre.  First of all, it is time-consuming.  And a combination.

 And one more thing because no, I found the answer, where from when checking the correctness of the backup does not complete the check, and this error crashes?  Do not validate?  Also it has always been ok. The copy is correct after checking.

 Regards Oscar

Dziękuję za wyczerpującą odpowiedź. Bardzo klarowna.Może nie wszytko ogarniam, bo bardzo fachowo to opisane. Ale proste pytania mi się nasuwają. I szkoda ze nie współgra z Win 11,jak zrozumiałem, nie było testowane, jak Piszesz. Pierwsze pytanie, czy w wersji 2021 jest podobnie? Czy zrobienie botowalnego pendraiva, i zastosowanie go w chwili awarii, i chęci przywrócenia kopi zapasowej, ruszy? Tak jak te nie działające z F11? Bo instalowanie z pendraiva win 11, potem instalacja Akronis, i dopiero odzyskiwanie z kopii zapasowej, to masakra. Przed wszystkim czasochłonność. I kombinacja. 

I jeszcze jedno bo nie, doszukałem się odpowiedzi, skąd przy sprawdzaniu poprawności kopi zapasowej nie dochodzi do końca sprawdzenia, i wywala ten błąd? Nie sprawdzać poprawności? Też zawsze było ok. Kopia jest poprawna po sprawdzeniu. 

Pozdrawiam Oscar 

Oscar, the recommended method for performing recovery of a Windows OS disk drive is to boot the PC using the Acronis rescue media (on a USB stick or DVD) - this is the method that you would need to use if doing a bare-metal recovery should the OS disk fail and need to be replaced by a new drive.

The F11 ASRM method relies on the OS disk being good because the boot application is stored on that disk but potentially could be compromised if malware has got a foothold!

See KB 63226: Acronis True Image 2020: how to create bootable media and KB 59877: Acronis True Image: how to distinguish between UEFI and Legacy BIOS boot modes of Acronis Bootable Media

KB 63295: Acronis True Image 2020: How to restore your computer with WinPE-based or WinRE-based media

Validation does not guarantee that a backup file will result in a successful, working recovery!

What validation does do is to confirm that the backup file that was created by the backup operation has not been changed after it was written to the storage drive / location.  It does this by reading the backup TIB / TIBX file and calculating checksum values for each block of the file then comparing those checksums with values embedded within the file.  It the checksums match, then the file has not been changed since written.

What validation cannot do is to change whether any malware, virus or corruption was present in the source data for the backup operation when it was performed.

Witaj. Zapoznałem się ze wskazówkami i, wyjaśnieniami. Widzę, sądzę, ze na ta chwilę, aż wersja nowsza pod win 11, nie będzie wypuszczona, sprawdzona, za trudne jest dla mnie wszystkie Twoje, uwagi zrealizować. Ale spróbuję zrobić na początek, tego pendraiva botowalnego z funkcją uruchomienia tak jaj z F11, ale z USB. Na pewno będzie szybciej w razie czego, niż instalowanie na nowo win 11. Byle udało mi się zrobić tego pendraiva jako rozruchowego z Acronisem. A taką miałem nadzieję ze aktualizacja najnowsza, 2020 38600, już opisywane problemy, naprawi, niestety 😥 Pozdrawiam i jeszcze raz dzięki za fachową wiedzę, i pomoc. Oskar

Hello.  I have read the tips and explanations.  I see, I think, at the moment, until the newer version for wine 11 is released, checked, it is too difficult for me to implement all your comments.  But I will try to do this at the beginning, this bootable pendrive with the function of launching eggs from F11, but from USB.  Certainly it will be faster if necessary than reinstalling the 11 wines. If only I was able to make this pendrive bootable with Acronis.  And so I was hoping that the latest update, 2020 38600, the problems already described, will fix, unfortunately 😥 Regards and thanks again for professional knowledge and help.  Oscar

Witam. 

Powracam. Niestety z przerobionymi wszystkimi proponowanymi mi przez znawcę sposobami na działanie Acronis w środowisku Win 11, bez skutku. Jedna rzecz mi tylko działa, a mianowicie, po zainstalowaniu programu, robi mi kopię zapasową partycji, i na tym koniec. Program nie pozwala uruchomić tej kopii by z niej odzyskać partycję. Ani żadną z wcześniejszych. Mieli w jej znajdowaniu, i na tym koniec. Opiszę co robiłem do tej pory. Zaczełem od instalacji Acronis 2018,przez każdą następną, do Acronis 2020,przez każdą wersję, az do bulid ostatniej 3860.Na każdej, to samo. Jak nie możność uruchomienia, to potem nie możność odzyskania. Żadna z wersji nie działa prawidłowo. Myślałem że może większa aktualizacja Win 11, poprawi coś w współgraniu z Acronis. Nic nie pomogło. Mam najnowszego, zaktualizowanego Win11. Nadal nic. Robilem tez botowalnego pendraiva z Acronis. Mimo poprawnego zrobienia botowalnego pendraiva, ustawienia w Biosie by z niego się odpalał, nie chcę tego zrobić, uruchomic się z niego. Z F11, nadal to sano, brak możliwości uruchomienia. Ręce mi opadają. Tak jak w jakiejś odpowiedzi, było, program nie jest zoptymilizowany, sprawdzony pod Win 11. I tu chyba cały problem. 🤔 Dosyć  już mam szykania soosobu. Za mądre to chyba to dla mnie. Przyjdzie mi czekać na cud. Że może ktoś sprawdzi i znajdzie w firmie skąd ten brak kompatybilności z wersją mojego Acronis z Win 11. Bo na ta chwilę nie stac mbie na kupienie nowszej wersji, a zresztą nie mam pewności ze te inne, nowsze pomogą.

Próbowałem wszystkiego na co pozwalała moja wiedza. I umiejętności. Czy ktoś miał podobny problem, i sobie poradził? Już sprawdziłem wszystkie dostępne wersje przypisane mi do konta. Żadna nie działa poprawnie z moim Win 11,jak dawniej. Nie chce wraca do Win 10, tylko po to by program działał jak trzeba. Proszę firmę by pochyliła się na tym problemem. Na pewno znajdą rozwiązanie. To uruchamianie z pendraiva, czy F11, juz dużo by pomogło.

Oskar

Hello.

 I'm coming back.  Unfortunately, with all the methods proposed to me by an expert for the operation of Acronis in the Win 11 environment, to no avail.  One thing only works for me, which is, after installing the program, it makes me a backup of the partitions, and that's it.  The program does not allow you to run this copy in order to recover a partition from it.  Or any of the previous ones.  They had in finding it, and that was it.  I will describe what I have been doing so far.  I started with installing Acronis 2018, through each new one, to Acronis 2020, through each version, and all the way to the last 3860 bulid. Same on each one.  If it is not able to run, then it cannot be recovered.  Neither version is working properly.  I thought maybe a bigger update to Win 11 would improve something in harmony with Acronis.  Nothing helped.  I have the newest, updated Win11.  Still nothing.  I also made a botable pendrive from Acronis.  Despite the correct creation of a botable pendrive, the setting in Bios to fire from it, I do not want to do it, run from it.  With F11, still sano, unable to start.  My hands fall.  As in some answer, there was, the program is not optimized, checked under Win 11. And here's the whole problem.  🤔 I have had enough of my personal chances.  It's probably too smart for me.  I will have to wait for a miracle.  That maybe someone will check and find in the company why this incompatibility with the version of my Acronis with Win 11. Because at the moment I cannot afford to buy a newer version, and I am not sure that the other, newer versions will help.

 I tried everything my knowledge allowed.  And skills.  Has anyone had a similar problem and coped with it?  I have already checked all available versions assigned to my account.  Neither works properly with my Win 11 as it used to be.  I don't want to go back to Win 10 just to get the program to work as it should.  I am asking the company to focus on this problem.  They will surely find a solution.  But booting from a pendrive or F11 would help a lot already.

 Oscar

Hello.

 I'm coming back.  Unfortunately, with all the methods proposed to me by an expert for the operation of Acronis in the Win 11 environment, to no avail.  One thing only works for me, which is, after installing the program, it makes me a backup of the partitions, and that's it.  The program does not allow you to run this copy in order to recover a partition from it.  Or any of the previous ones.  They had in finding it, and that was it.  I will describe what I have been doing so far.  I started with installing Acronis 2018, through each new one, to Acronis 2020, through each version, and all the way to the last 3860 bulid. Same on each one.  If it is not able to run, then it cannot be recovered.  Neither version is working properly.  I thought maybe a bigger update to Win 11 would improve something in harmony with Acronis.  Nothing helped.  I have the newest, updated Win11.  Still nothing.  I also made a botable pendrive from Acronis.  Despite the correct creation of a botable pendrive, the setting in Bios to fire from it, I do not want to do it, run from it.  With F11, still sano, unable to start.  My hands fall.  As in some answer, there was, the program is not optimized, checked under Win 11. And here's the whole problem.  🤔 I have had enough of my personal chances.  It's probably too smart for me.  I will have to wait for a miracle.  That maybe someone will check and find in the company why this incompatibility with the version of my Acronis with Win 11. Because at the moment I cannot afford to buy a newer version, and I am not sure that the other, newer versions will help.

 I tried everything my knowledge allowed.  And skills.  Has anyone had a similar problem and coped with it?  I have already checked all available versions assigned to my account.  Neither works properly with my Win 11 as it used to be.  I don't want to go back to Win 10 just to get the program to work as it should.  I am asking the company to focus on this problem.  They will surely find a solution.  But booting from a pendrive or F11 would help a lot already.

 Oscar

Oscar, Acronis have only done any testing of Acronis Cyber Protect Home Office (ACPHO) with Windows 11, and that is the only product that is supported by them for reporting any code issues etc.

I have tested using ATI 2019 with Windows 11 and it worked fine for me, including performing both Backups and Recovery but this was all using the Acronis WinPE version of rescue media for the latter action.  Other users have tested using ATI 2020 and 2021 with Windows 11 too.

As I have said previously, F11 uses Linux for rescue media which has known issues and limitations that may be made worse with Windows 11.  I have not done any testing with Linux media and Windows 11.

Acronis rescue media should be created using the main Acronis Bootable Rescue Media Builder tool installed on Windows 11 and using the 'Simple' option, which will then use files from the Windows 11 Recovery Environment for the WinPE files along with device drivers needed by the media.

See KB 63226: Acronis True Image 2020: how to create bootable media and KB 59877: Acronis True Image: how to distinguish between UEFI and Legacy BIOS boot modes of Acronis Bootable Media

KB 63295: Acronis True Image 2020: How to restore your computer with WinPE-based or WinRE-based media

Let's focus only on the boot pendrive.  I did everything as described in 63226. I did exactly the same as shown in the drawings and description presented.  I have correctly set up in bios, UEFI can also be set LEGANCY.  The boot pendrive was made in the win11 environment, right after making the first full backup, made as WinRE.  Everything according to the instructions.  Selected booting from this flash drive in bios.  And when I see it, I mark it.  It goes at startup, after the lenovo logo, it wants to boot, from it, but they had it, they had it, and it restarts, and so on, until I hard shut down the laptop.  If this pendraiv worked for me, I would get around the other problems described.  But it doesn't work.

Skupmy się tylko na pendrivie startowym. Wszytko zrobiłem jak opisane w 63226. Dokładnie tak zrobiłem jak na przedstawionych rysunkach i opisie. Mam w biosie poprawnie ustawione,UEFI może być też ustawione LEGANCY. Pendrive startowy został zrobiony w środowisku win11, zaraz po zrobieniu pierwszej pełnej kopii zapsowej, zrobione jako WinRE. Wszytko wg instrukcji. Wybrane botowanie z tego pendraiva w biosie. I widzi go zaznaczam. Przechodzi przy uruchomieniu, po logo lenovo, chce się uruchomić, z niego, ale mieli, mieli, i się restartuje, i tak w koło, do chwili, aż nie wyłączę na twardo laptopa. Gdyby mi działał ten pendraiv, obszedł bym pozostałe opisane problemy. Ale nie działa.

Let's focus only on the boot pendrive.  I did everything as described in 63226. I did exactly the same as shown in the drawings and description presented.  I have correctly set up in bios, UEFI can also be set LEGANCY.  The boot pendrive was made in the win11 environment, right after making the first full backup, made as WinRE.  Everything according to the instructions.  Selected booting from this flash drive in bios.  And when I see it, I mark it.  It goes at startup, after the lenovo logo, it wants to boot, from it, but they had it, they had it, and it restarts, and so on, until I hard shut down the laptop.  If this pendraiv worked for me, I would get around the other problems described.  But it doesn't work.

Oscar, Windows 11 requires UEFI along with TPM 2.0 and therefore uses GPT for disk partitions and boots in UEFI BIOS boot mode.

Your boot pendrive also needs to boot using UEFI BIOS boot mode.  It will not work in Legacy BIOS boot mode and would not produce a valid recovery if used in that mode.

And I do everything exactly as You describe.  The bios on the disc in the settings is set to UEFI.

And I was doing pendrive on Windows 11 and on Bios with UEFII still have to check in Bios where the TPM 2.0 is, whether it is or is to be set

Ps: Unfortunately, I checked everything.  It is as it should be.  In addition, before installing Win 11, he checked whether it meets the appropriate parameters for my Laptop.  And this TMP 2 also had to be.  Also, I don't know where to look for the reason for not booting from the correct pendrive

Jakby tego było mało, wyszło na to że tylko pendrive botowalny z acronisem się nie uruchamia. Bo zrobiony przez stronę Microsoft pendrive botowalny z Win 11, gdy go włożę do USB, uruchamiam tak jak z Acronisem, bez problemu, startuje, i mogę instalować czysty system Windows 11. Także wychodzi ze pendrive z Acronisem jest jakoś źle zrobiony. Pomysły mi się wyczerpały.

As if that was not enough, it turned out that only the bootable pendrive with acronis does not start.  Because made by the Microsoft website, bootable pendrive with Win 11, when I put it into USB, I run it like with Acronis, without any problem, it starts, and I can install a clean Windows 11. Also it comes out with Acronis pendrive is somehow badly made.  I have run out of ideas.

Witam. 

Po dłuższej przerwie. Piszę iż chcę zakończyć temat. Mimo wszystkich porad, pomocy w temacie,za co bardzo dziękuję, od znawcy w temacie, nie dałem rady, a może jak pisał Kolega, nie była ta wersja optymilzowana, pod Win 11, po prostu sprawdzana. No i chyba dla tego min nie dałem rady, nie mogłem uruchomić, zrobić by w pełni działało. Nie działa uruchamianie ratunkowe, z botowalnego pendrivia.Ani ukrytej partycji. To raz, dwa nie idzie stworzony plik odzyskać, który sprawdzony,wczesniej informuje po utworzeniu iż jest poprawny. Jedyne co idzie to utworzyć plik partycji do wykorzystania, w czasie ewentualnej awarii. Na szczęście znalazłem porównywalny program, który z Win 11 nie ma żadnego problemu. W żadnej kwestji o których wyżej napisałem. Czyli idzie. Sprawdziłem wszytko. Uruchamia się z pendrive. Cały program, pomoc po POLSKU 🙂 Trafiłem na wersję Pro programu w promocji przy odpowiedniej rejestracji, dostaje się licencję na program, za darmo. 🙂 Nie podaje nazwy. By nie być posądzany o reklamę. Sygnalizuję tylko, kolega mającym problem, szukajcie a Znajdziecie. Tyle nerwów bym oszczędził, gdybym wcześnie szukał. Jestem bardzo zadowolony, mam wszytko co chciałem. Pozdrawiam i jeszcze raz dziękuję za zainteresować nie tematem, i edukację w temacie, która na pewno nie poszła na marne. 

Hello.

 After a long break.  I am writing that I want to finish the topic.  Despite all the advice, help on the topic, for which I thank you, from an expert on the subject, I could not do it, or maybe, as my colleague wrote, this version was not optimized, for Win 11, just checked.  Well, I guess I couldn't make it for this, I couldn't start it, make it work fully.  Boot from bootable pendrivia.No hidden partition does not work.  This is one or two times the created file does not recover, which is checked, earlier it informs that it is correct after creation.  All it takes is to create a partition file to use in the event of a crash.  Fortunately, I found a comparable program that has no problem with Win 11.  In no matter what I wrote above.  So it goes.  I checked everything.  It runs from a pendrive.  The whole program, help in ENGLISH 🙂 I found the Pro version of the program in the promotion with proper registration, you get a license for the program, for free.  🙂 Doesn't say name.  Not to be accused of advertising.  I am just signaling a colleague with a problem, look for and you will find.  I would have spared so much nerve if I had searched early.  I am very pleased, I have everything I wanted.  Greetings and thank you again for your interest in the subject, and for education in the subject, which was certainly not in vain.