5 Hours to back up 180GB Vista drive?....

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I'm trying to backup my Vista Biz drive before I upgrade to Windows 7, but why does the estimate indicate 5 hours?...I've disabled my anti-virus, and disabled my Log Me In as well...any idea what's up? I've done this before and it took about 2 hours...anybody give me some advice....what am I missing here? The Vista drive is a 400GB Seagate with approx 181GB of data, and the backup drive is a 250GB drive, and it's completely empty...thanks in advance!

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 22:05
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Are you using USB 2?

Did you let the backup run for a while to see if the estimated time dropped?

Do you have a validation set to automatically run after the backup finishes?

Was the previous backup done to the same destination drive and with the same amount of data?

Are you creating the backup from the TI CD or from TI in Windows?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 22:27
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USB 2.0...yes

it ran for more than an hour, and still indicates 5 hours remaining with 0% operation progress

no validation set to run automatically

previous backup was done to same destination drive, with less data

backup is running from TI in Windows...

...and it's been running for almost 90 minutes, now indicating 6% progress, and 5 hours remaining...

thanks for your attention and questions

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 23:30
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That doesn't seem right. Does the USB drive have an indicator light? If so, is it showing constant activity?

Is it just as slow backing up to another destination (internal drive, Network share [1Gbps])?

Is the CPU showing heavy load or practically nothing?

What version and build of TI are you using?

Thu, 06/10/2010 - 00:27
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all excellent questions...

it's been running for 3.5 hours now, and indicates 3 hours remaining, with 48% progress...I guess it actually will take 5 hours...

Activity LED on the destination drive is very busy

version 10, but I can't discover the builr while it's running, and I'm not going to stop it now....

Thu, 06/10/2010 - 02:23
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Hello,

MudCrab, thank you for the assistance.

Mike, let me help you.

Indeed, this situation is not normal. Acronis True Image should back up that amount of data in approximately 2-3 hours.

First of all, I may recommend you to check your drives for errors:

  • Go to the Command Prompt (Start -> Run -> cmd)
  • Enter the command: "chkdsk X: /r"

where X is the partition letter you need to check. Please note, that checking the C: drive may require you to reboot the machine.

After that please try to back up again and check how it goes. Additionally, you can try to back up your drive using Acronis Bootable Media. You can find more information on how to create it at the Chapter 10 of the User's Guide.

If backup goes faster, then there are some application/processes that prevents Acronis True Image from running correctly within Windows and I need some additional information to find out the exact reason of the issue.

Could you please collect the following information and attach it to your reply?

1. Windows System Information file;

2. Device Tree:

  • Download and unpack the Device Tree application:
  • Run the application from "i386" folder (run the 64-bit version of Device tree from "x64" folder if you have Windows Vista 64-bit);
  • Completely unfold (click on all plus signs) the \Driver\partmgr and \Driver\volmgr branches;
  • Move the margin to the right in order to see all the items;
  • Make a screen shot and attach it to your reply

3. As MudCrab notes, please let me know the build number (Help -> About). If it's not #4942, please register our software on our website and download and install the latest build.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Thank you.

Thu, 06/10/2010 - 13:33
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Thanks Ilya,

Well, it did indeed require 5+ hours to complete the full backup of the 180GB of data, and was followed by verification, and that too was successful. Before I ran the backup, I scanned the drive with AVG free, Superantispyware, and Malwarebytes, used MyDefrag, and ran chkdsk. I have backed this drive up before, and to the same destination drive, and as you indicated, it took between 2-3 hours, even though each previous backup was LESS data that this most recent. I'll have to get back to you with any screenshots and/or the build of ATI 10, because once the backup was completed and verified, I began the upgrade to Windows 7, which was the plan all along...and with this amount of data, the upgrade is taking it's sweet time as well...guess it is what it is...

Thu, 06/10/2010 - 19:23
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MyDefrag/Bootmgr problems!?

Win 7 (32), ATI H 2010 registered/ new boot CD.

I really like MyDefrag, but according to MyDefrag Incompatibility page (& my recent experience!)- It DOES cause conflicts with incremental backups, and some emergency boot CD's! (Ghost 15 too!- OOP'S, dirty word (I hate it!)!

1. Incremental backups quickly become HUGE after defrag, and take forever!- Defraged files are moved, and incremental image backups see them as being changed/dupe copy...!
I always do New, and manually delete...

2. ATI Boot CD manager wouldn't let me increase C: partition size to my new bigger HD?- bootmgr was always "permanently" corrupted (no MS/forum repair... worked (6)?)!?
Finally a FIX!- There IS an ERROR in the ATI 2010 manual!- You can't "manually" enter a partition size number(i.e. 60.0), use the slider ONLY!
I uninstalled MyDefrag (may not have had to?), and did a new Backup directly to my USB HD-
I then tried manually entering the partition size again, and it was still frozen at 29.2?
I then used the slider/ & amp; boot 0, and it installed C: to 60.2 perfectly!- PHEW!
UPDATE/correction!?- It said it was recovering to 60.2, but when I checked Explorer it was still 29.2?
I just don't know how to increase size, without getting the "Bootmgr Missing" on startup- That can't be repaired?

BTW!- My new WD 32mb buffer HD, is sooo Fast!

G'night
Scott

Sun, 07/11/2010 - 19:20
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Scott,
The key to using a defrag is to run it just before a full backup and do not run the defrag prior to any incremental. TrueImage tracks the changes on the disk so it will take any movement by a defrag program as a change and th is is something you do not want. Do not use the defrag after a full and prior to an any subsequent incremental.

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p>Scott,
The key to using a defrag is to run it just before a full backup and do not run the defrag prior to any incremental. TrueImage tracks the changes on the disk so it will take any movement by a defrag program as a change and th is is something you do not want. Do not use the defrag after a full and prior to an any subsequent incremental.

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So I have to give up defrags, if I want to do incrementals- or they will be HUGE & take forever! Not!
I do a MYDEFRAG "Weekly (Much better than daily!)" defrag at the end of "every" work day ("After" a fresh reboot!), and performance is increased by 25%...!
I will continue to Only do full ATI Backups, after a defrag!

Mon, 07/12/2010 - 17:47
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I had the same problem. (See attached image)
Disabling indexing service on my backup location, and stopping defrag from running every day as proposed in this thread fixed the problem.
Now a full backup only takes 3 -4 hours. (Before it took so long that it never completed.. ETA where almost 50.000 days)

/Martin

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Sun, 07/25/2010 - 16:18