ATI 2011 Startup Recovery Manager

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When ATI 2011 is installed on a local PC, where does the Startup Recovery Manager (SRM) reside?
From what location will the rescue environment boot during F11 post with SRM option?

1. Does ATI 2011 needs to stay installed on the local PC for the SRM to work?
2. Where is the Recovery Manager (SRM) stored, from where will it boot while using F11 during post?
3. When ATI is installed on Disk1 C:\ and the secure zone is on Disk 2, Disk 1 get's corrucpted, will the SRM still work and load the recovery environment?
4. What options are available in this manager, only 1 click restore option or full ATI 2011 version?
5. Does the secure zone also contains the recovery environment or only the backups?

Maybe some questions are simmilar but i really wonder where this recovery environment resides while using the SRM function instead of using a bootable recue media.

Thanks.

Tue, 09/07/2010 - 05:55
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1. Yes and No the components that are in the common files section need to stay, but the rest of TI is not required - but this is not recommended.

2. In the Master boot Record.

3. Is this a scenario or are you saying that disk 1 gets corrupted when you have the SZ on drive 2?

Assuming it's a scenario, the SRM will work (unless the corruption includes the MBR or the disk has suffered hardware failure) and should be able to see the SZ. - You need to test this!

4. What does the User Guide have to say on the matter? Hint - it has exactly the same options as an actual CD (page 152) Note the user guide and the help file are slightly different.

5. No, just the images.

Even if you intend to use the ASRM you still need to make a rescue CD and make sure that your PC will boot from it and that you can see all your drives. If this fails, then there are solutions but your ASRM won't work as it is Linux based as is the rescue CD. The rescue CD however can be in most cases persuaded to work by burning Linux parameters to the CD as of this moment there is no easy way of changing the contents of the ASRM.

Note also that if your PC is a brand name one that uses the F11 key to run manufacturer recovery utilities, you will lose this ability. Also be aware if the drive itself dies, you've lost the ability to boot into the ASRM - so a CD is a very good idea.

Tue, 09/07/2010 - 07:12
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Thanks for the information.

1. Point 2 is a scenario, assuming that for some reason Disk 1 get's corrupted, because the SZ is on Disk 2 i can still restore but i was wondering where the booted rescue environment is stored. It can't be just in the MBR. The files loading at boot have to be stored somewhere.
2. So after installing ATI2011 and activating and creation of the SZ and ASRM i could uninstall the main application? Will it leave the neccesary common files behind?

I want to prepare my parents PC with an easy way to restore if anything happens, however they have no knowledge to use this application or anything else then looking the internet. :-) They also have no need to keep the main application installed on their system. If anything happens i want them to be able to just restart their PC hit F11 and do the restore for them. This product seems to be able to do this that's why i wanted to know about the ASRM.

I read below in the manual when creating a bootable media:

* Place Acronis One-Click Restore on media *
Acronis One-Click Restore is a minimal addition to your bootable media, allowing one-click data recovery from an image backup stored on this media. This means that when booting from the media and after clicking Recover, all data will be silently recovered to its original place. No options or selections such as resizing partitions will be possible.

Is this also possible with the ASRM?

The Acronis Secure Zone is not available as a location for backups in the recovery environment when you start Acronis True Image Home 2011 from bootable rescue media, through Acronis Startup Recovery Manager or Bart PE.

Does this also mean that in the ASRM rescue environment you can't restore from an image that resides in the SZ?

Thanks.

Tue, 09/07/2010 - 08:10
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The SZ should be available to restore images but you can't make images and store them there.

I will double check with my system, however you can soon find out by making the rescue CD which is exactly the same as the ASRM and if that sees them then the ASRM will as well.

As I stated above, even if you make the ASRM you still need to make the rescue CD in case your actual drive dies.

Would your parents be OK with booting from a USB stick?

Wed, 09/08/2010 - 04:22
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Hey thanks,

Off course i'll make a sperate backup on disc in case anything happens to the harddrive. But because i'm not always available to help out my parents (i live abroad) i'm trying to setup a recovery system for them as easy as possible. Like i mentioned they have no knowledge for computers and only know how to switch it on and off and use it to browse internet. :-)

Telling them to just hit F11 and select recover would be great. If i have to explain them how to change boot orders in BIOS and so on, they will freak out. They use an older computer with XP on it so they can use internet. In case they messup the system they can always restore back with F11. That's my goal.
I read the whole manual and find a lot of information for backing up and recover from bootable media, like i mentioned above. However for using the ASRM you only find how to activate it and that's about it. Because i'm considering to buy this product i want to make sure first if i can do what i want with it. Making backups to DVD etc. many applications can do but using a ASRM during post together with a secure zone makes this product get my attention, if you know what i mean.

Anyway i have no idea yet how this ASRM works and how well it works together with the SZ to recover system partition.
Also i'm still wondering if it also includes the ONE CLICK RESTORE function like you can do with bootable media. (see my last post)

Thanks for all the input as it looks to me it's the only product out there at this moment that comes close to what i want. :-)

Wed, 09/08/2010 - 04:48