Best method to migrate to Windows 8 on new laptop
I currently have a Window 7 x64 laptop (Lenovo T510) that I am upgrading to the newer model (T530). The preinstalled OS on the new laptop is Windows 7 x64, but I am doing a clean install on the new machine to bring that up to Windows 8 (I have not been able to successfully upgrade my older model to Windows 8).
I really want to do a "clean install" of Windows 8 on the new machine, as I am also changing the drive configuration from a single drive on my old laptop (1TB SDD), to an SDD (256GB)+HDD (1TB) system.
What is the best way to migrate/upgrade?
I have done a full system backup on my old laptop using Acronis TI 2013 (with plus pack).
My current plan is to do the bare metal install on my new laptop, and then do a restore on the new laptop. As long as I have selected not to upgrade system files, will this create problems? Will it work to successfully move applications, or will I need to reinstall applications?
Jeff
There is a program that advertises that it can strip your prograqms and their reigstry entries and allows a transfer to clean W8 machine, but I ahve never tried this.
Any update on programs and/or techniques that can do this?
There is a program that advertises that it can strip your prograqms and their reigstry entries and allows a transfer to clean W8 machine, but I ahve never tried this.
Any update on programs and/or techniques that can do this?
Laplink!
I don't have their web address to hand, but a search will probably find them.
Thank Colin,
I have a particular situation that "sits in-between" what Acronis is "designed to do" .... AND a product like Laplink PC Mover is designed to do. My Windows 7 Home Premium - with SEVERAL Acronis 2013 backups - has according to Symantec and HP support, been "compromised" by malware/virus "removal" to where Windows boot just fine ... BUT, wireless networking (wired works fine), printing and now Windows Update DO NOT WORK. OF course, they say "RESTORE to FACTORY" IS the ONLY option!
I read your VERY INFORMATIVE posts about "how the OS and apps were intertwined" and hence ... Acronis, ON IT'S OWN ... would "ONLY RESTORE" Win7 "bit for bit" including any corruption???
Is that correct?
Laplink says they have a $29.95 product called PC Mover Windows 7 Upgrade Assistant"to do IN PLACE" upgrades.
I am NOT pitching Laplink but am STUCK between a rock and a hard place.
Any suggestions on how to basically re-install Windows 7 by using just Acronis 2013 PLUS?
I should add that I have successfully CLONED my old 320 GB drive to a 750 GB Seagate Hybrid SSD with almost 500 GB FREE ... ironically using a Seagate "disc clone utility" using Acronis.
Thanks,
Scott
I read your VERY INFORMATIVE posts about "how the OS and apps were intertwined" and hence ... Acronis, ON IT'S OWN ... would "ONLY RESTORE" Win7 "bit for bit" including any corruption???
Is that correct?
Restoring an ATI full disk backup effectively rolls back your PC to its state when the backup was created. An infected system is exactly the sort of situation that can be saved by restoring an earlier backup. Do you have any backups made before the malware infection?
As a matter of fact, I have a FULL + Differential from 11-15-2012 ... but it shows that the "last of 5 differential updates" was AFTER the virus removal. IF, the OS kernal was "back on 11-15-2012" that would certainly be BRFORE a late April/Early May date of infection.
The question is how does ATI deal with this backup scheme?
I don't understand your statements. You say that your backup was made before the infection, but you also say it was made after infection and removal.
As long as the original full backup is present, you may restore any differential that you choose.
The FULL backup and original creation was 11-15-2012 ... which was well before the late April/Early May 2013 timeframe when the malware/virus was detected and removed. According to Symantc and HP Tech Support, the "newer infections" go in a cripple some fuctionality but Windows 7 can genarlly run.
My question is, due the "differentials" ALSO "bit image" ANY changes in the OS as well as programs and data ... in which case, I am in no better shape?
A differential will include the same things as the original full backup, but will only backup the changed sectors. So, if the full backed up the entire system, the differential would backup changes of that system. If the full backed up only C:, the differential would backup changes of C:.
If you want your system restored to before the infection, restore the last backup created before the infection.
Thanks ... I feeel like a dog chasing it's tail ... I appreciate your volunteer help, but my technical background says that I "need" to do a "new install" and then bring back the apps and data.
BUT ... I just can NOT even fathom doing a one-at-a time APP INSTALL ... my time is just far too valuable.
It appears that the Laplink product "is supposed to do that" ... I will investigate.
I will let you know if the combination works ...
Scott
It appears that the Laplink product "is supposed to do that" ... I will investigate.
I would be wary of migrating working apps, which would include some system files, from a malware-infected system. You would risk copying over infected files.
GREAT point ... just curious, because I now have this huge HD, is there a scenario where I can partition the HD and JUST install the OS in the C partition and all apps + data in another. On of the techs "suggested that" as they "suggested" a BEST PRACTICE strategy is to essentially RE-LOAD the OS "at least ONCE a year - even better every 6 months".
Does that make sense at all to someone like you who is an axpert with a Disk Imaging app like Acronis?
Granted, I ALWAYS have thought of Acronis as a "catastrophic image recovery tool" and/or a "bare metal" restore app.
Perhaps, it's ALL BACK on Microsoft's shoulders for the way the built Windows ... I am so use to OTA "OS upgrades on my smartphone" ... that just seem to completely seperate the OS and APPS/DATA = BUMMER!
Scott
Those are ideas for going forward. They do not solve your current problem. You must decide how to get back to a clean working system.
As for partitioning, I think it is a good idea. My drive has three partitions:
- OS and apps
- user data
- music and video
Separating user data to different partitions allows me to restore C: from backup if I ever have system issues, without rolling back my user files.
Even if you try to install apps to a non-OS partition, most will still have required entries on the OS drive (at the very least in the Registry), and some will mostly or entirely install to the OS partition.
Yes, I understand ... right now, my BEST option is to do one final backup and then:
1) TRY ATI FULL + Differential and "at least" KNOW for the future how that works - I basically am hosed anyway! I just can't even remember that last time I even had to use a "Disk Image RESTORE" option ... so, unlike you, I have zero experience and baselene. EVEN IF, there are STILL issues, I can call Symantec as I have a $19.95 per month TECH SUPPORT option for ANY ISSUE.
2) Pay $29.95 as another experiment to Laplink PC Mover Windows 7 "in place upgrade" - I have a Win7 Ultimatte license key. I read the Laplink user manual and they basically mount the backup image "AFTER a clean install" - once again, I HAVE that Symantec Ultimate Help Desk "subscription" where they basically take control of my PC and run sophisticated diagnostics.
3) Since 2, basically gives me a new, clean install - aka Windows 7 Home Premium to Windows 7 Ultimatte - then, I can RE-LOAD all of my key apps + use ATI to resoore the "data".
Thanks,
Scott
Good luck with it.
Thank you for "listening" to my frustration!