Cannot get Acronis show ALL existing backups Also how to auto-validate a new backup?
Hello,
I cannot get Acronis to show all the backups that I have in my C:\My Backups folder.
I have tried using the :Add Backup: icon and searching for the one or ones I want then choosing "Add to backups" When I do that nothing happens.
If I try and use the "Sort By" icon that doesn't work.
If I use the gears icon and choose "Search now" it does nothing.
I'd also like to know if I can get Acronis to validate my backups automatically if I am backing up using the My Partitions format scheme. Right now I am doing the validation manually as a separate step after the backup is made
Thanks to all in advance!
F Wolf
David answered your validation option. This may help to get your files to show.
Does your storage folder contain backups from only one task or from several tasks?
Hello Grover, nice to see on the screen again!
The backup that I can't get to show in ATIH is one task using the"My Partitions "scheme that you suggested I use weeks and weeks ago. It resides in a folder called "My backups\My Partitions" I am pleased to say that the auto delete we discussed is working fine, now that the version numbers of the .tib files are consecutive.
But it puzzles me why I can't get that remaining one of two tasks to show on the main screen.
If you need screenshots I can do them but I have to reboot and start the external drive. Please let me know if they would be helpful.
Regards, and thanks to David for the tip on the auto validation, it will save me ever more time.
Fred
Hi F Wolf,
Yes a picture is worth a 1000 words. It would help to see a screen capture of the missing or problem task. Show
1. the backup scheme
2. the main menu
3. the storage folder showing the contents of the folder sorted in date/time of creation similiar to the sort sequence of the bottom of the next link.
GH14. Custom Differential Backup Scheme . 6 Diff, Keep 4 chains. & folder
Hi GroverH,
Here are the screenshots you asked for hope I got everything you needed, if not please advise.
Thanks,
F W
But it puzzles me why I can't get that remaining one of two tasks to show on the main screen.
The 3 attachments all match and blend with what is shown on the main screen. All match completely.
The task displayed is a not scheduled backup and anytime you want a backup created, the "Backup now" option is clicked.
If I am understanding correctly, you have one task which does not appear on the main menu and that is what I am trying to assist upon.
Show me the storage folder which has files for which you believe should be showing on main screen but do not show.
GroverH,
The .jpg named Acronis 3 shows that there is a backup made on March 15 2014 that's the one that I can't get to appear in the main screen. It is obviously there in the C:\My Backups\My Partitions folder, but yet I can't get it to appear.
Thank you,
F Wolf
GH5. How to delete backup files using Acronis Backup 'Explorer'
If I understand correctly, when you open up the Acronis Backup explorer as above and view the contents,
only the one file (one rectangle) is listed along the bottom margin and when you hover the mouse pointer over the box for a description, which file is listed. Is this correct?
Hi GroverH,
I found the solution to the :::problem::: I thought I was having with the backups not showing in the main screen. I was the one causing the trouble.
I made a second backup today and realized what I was doing wrong when making the backup. Here's what I was doing without realizing it was a mistake.
In the main screen I was clicking on BACKUP NOW on the only file that was showing in the window, thinking that would create a backup. Well it does but it doesn't allow it to show in the main screen. It seems to make a sub backup of "My Partitions" when I did that. So I made yet another backup this time I went to Disk and Partitions Backup and chose all 3 partitions then chose Backup Now. As soon as I did that the file I was creating showed immediately in the main screen! So after soundly kicking myself I then watched as the auto validate worked. Then I went back in and chose the same parameters but this time I chose BACKUP LATER. Now I have that in my main screen for the next time.
So in essence there was no problem except the one I was making for myself and YOU!
I got confused thinking that clicking on the" Backup Now" in an EXISTING "My Partitions" file, showing in the main screen, was the same as clicking on the "Backup Now" in the window where it says "Not Backed Up Yet."
They clearly are not the same, that explains why I wasn't seeing it in the main window of ATIH.
I think it will be fine now, I just wish there was a way to always have the option that says "Not Backed Up Yet" to always be available once the choices have been made in the Disk and Partition Backup window. Looks like I have to make the selections every time I do a backup and then choose Backup Later, to get me ready for the next one.
Thank you very much for your patience, I appreciate your time and concern.
Cheers,
F W
Most of your preceding post is confusing to me. I have covered some of the points
In the main screen I was clicking on BACKUP NOW on the only file that was showing in the window, thinking that would create a backup.
If you are talking about the method used in the next two links, the links show the correct way to add/create a new backup to your listing of a backups .
GH4. Illustrate Manual Single Task Backup Now option.
GH24. Illustrate Multiple Tasks Backup-Now Listings
In the main screen I was clicking on BACKUP NOW on the only file that was showing in the window
If you are referring to the main screen, then you are talking about the "Backup Task" (not a file) and your task is named by you to be "My Partitions" and it can hold many tib files available for reference.
The backup task is created once with all the settings (scheduled or non-scheduled) you want and then saved under the "Backup later" option.
After task is completed and saved. any and all future non-scheduled backups (for that specific task & target) are initiated by opening the program, placing mouse pointer inside the specific backup task and clicking the "Backup now" option which is located inside task-extreme right margin. Therefore, a repetitive task requires NO repeat of the one time setting the various backup options. Here are two examples.
GH4. Illustrate Manual Backup Now option.
GH24. Les multiple Backup-Now Listings
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Examine this next link in detail. Note along the bottom row of the bottom picture, there are multiple rectangles. Each rectangle represents a tib backup file. Now, note along the upper left margin, there inside task is a listing of
"Version: 12 (last=today)" This 12 is the summary of what is listed in the bottom row. Each of the rectangles is a tib file available for restore.
GH5. How to delete backup files using Acronis Backup 'Explorer'
My point is that the task is listed only once on the main menu but all of the files that it created (if not deleted) are available for restore.
Also, any tib file found via Windows Explorer is available for restore by RIGHT CLICKING on the file and selecting Acronis and selecting any of the additional options listed. Also, if booted from the TI Recovery CD, any tib files found by browsing is available for restore so there are multiple ways of making a file available for restore.
The only time a new backup task needs to be created is when the data selection changes on what is to be included within the backup or when the storage target changes. If you set the backup task up as an "automatic cleanup", there will be a fixed (user controlled) number of revolving backups so there is no excuse for getting the "target disk is full" error message.
When you have some time, spend some time on signature link 1 and review the section 1 listing an assortment of GH? links. A review of signature link 2 may also be of interest.
GroverH,
I WAS clicking on the pre-configured backup task the same as you indicate in your "backup-now-example 0 .jpg When I did that it DID start a new backup but that backup wasn't visible in the Backup and Recovery main screen. That was what I couldn't understand. Yes it made a new backup but "no" that backup didn't show up in that screen.
Now when I went to the backup options are reselected them and chose backup now, that new backup appeared. As I thought EVERY backup would. But according to you that's not the case, the new backup appears in the My Backups folder but WON'T appear in the Backup and Recovery screen ----- correct?
So I wasn't doing anything wrong, it's just that my expectations exceeded what the program will do.
It may help you to understand that normally before all this started I would make individual backups of each partition on my machine and each backup task would show in the list of tasks in the Backup and Recovery main screen. Changing to backing up my partitions changed the way the backups are displayed.
So in closing once you create a backup task and all the parameters, you can simply click on BACKUP NOW and start the process, just DON'T expect to see you new backup task appear in the main screen. Apparently there is no way to get new PARTITION backups listed in the main screen once they are started It's in the C:\My Backups\ My Partitions folder but you won't see each one..... can we agree on that?
Thank you,
F W
F W,
Time is short tonight. I need to a offer different ways for you to use the software so it will be less confusing and less chance of error. Tomorrow, hopefully.
I cannot get Acronis to show all the backups that I have in my C:\My Backups folder.
The revised questiion has become
"why doesn't the creation of a new repeat backup add a new "task" listing to the main "Backup & Recovery' screen?
The short response is that the creation of a new backup by one task does not or is not intended to add a new "task" listing to the listing of backup tasks.
.....Should you use any procedure which does in fact create a new backup and does add a new backup task, then the new backup is part of the newly created task and not part of the original task. The use of the same task name and the same folder name and the same user part of the backup file name can do nothing but cause confusion to both the user and the program and adding a task via this method should be avoided.
.....Anytime a new task is added to the Backup & Recovery (B&R) main screen, its task name should differ, it storage folder name should differ, and its tib backup file name (user part) should differ from that of any other listed backup task.
A single task can be used (and is designed to include) to contain multiple backups created either by a scheduled backup or from manually initiated backups. Manually initiated backups can be initiated via a user desktop shortcut or can be imitated by clicking the "Backup now" option listed inside the specific backup task on the extreme right margin of a specific task. (Link.) Backups created by a specific task can be viewed via the Acronis Backup Explorer link, or also seen via the user designated storage folder.
Now when I went to the backup options are reselected them and chose backup now, that new backup appeared. As I thought EVERY backup would. But according to you that's not the case, the new backup appears in the My Backups folder but WON'T appear in the Backup and Recovery screen ----- correct?
Your are correct. No new backup tasks will be added to the main menu Backup & Recovery List of backup tasks. However, newly created backups via the "Backup Now" option will add additional tib files to the task storage folder and its summary of files but will NOT add any new task listings to the main B&R menu.
So in closing once you create a backup task and all the parameters, you can simply click on BACKUP NOW and start the process, just DON'T expect to see you new backup task appear in the main screen. Apparently there is no way to get new PARTITION backups listed in the main screen once they are started It's in the C:\My Backups\ My Partitions folder but you won't see each one..... can we agree on that?
Your are correct. For a new task to be added to he B&R main screen, it requires that the user start with a new task creation (upper left corner of B& R screen) and assign all the various task parameters with a new/different task name, a new/different storage folder and a new/different tib backup file name.
Summary: Additionally, In order not to fill your storage disk with a resulting "disk full" error message, the task backup scheme can be configured for automatic cleanup. Here are 3 examples of using Full Only or Full with Incremental or Full with differential type backups which utilize "automatic cleanup". The advantage of automatic cleanup is the program will handle the deletion of old backups automatically without the need for the user to manually interfere. The key to success is to set the "store no more than X" correctly upon creation and perform no editing of the X number.
GH11. Create Custom Full Backup Scheme.Keep 4 versions (chains).
GH12. Create Custom Incremental Backup Scheme. 6 Inc, Keep 4 chains.
GH13. Create Custom Differential Backup Scheme. 2 Diff, Keep 2 chains.
GH14. Custom Differential Backup Scheme . 6 Diff, Keep 4 chains. & folder
F W,
You might find this link of interest, as well.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/56330#comment-174161
Hi GroverH,
All understood! Everything is fine here just made a backup and it deleted the oldest one. Odd thing is that the auto-validate failed to run, or if it did run it didn't mark it in the Backup and Recovery window. Normally on a manual validate I get a green line that says " This backup is valid" I didn't get it when I made the backup today. It IS checked and saved in Backup Options. No error message that the backup ISN'T valid but if it doesn't tell me one way or another there's now way to tell. The last time I did a backup I believe it did show a valid indication. Dunno why it didn't run this time.
Other than that, thanks to YOU and your diligence and patience, I have a good understanding of what to expect when doing backups.
If you have any thoughts as to why the auto validate didn't run please let me know. Other than that I am all set!
Many thanks and best wishes,
ADDENDUM: Since I have new found confidence, I deleted my old task and made a new one, then did a backup. This time the auto-validate worked fine and I see the message on the screen. The test will be to see what it does on the next go round! :D
FW
If you have any thoughts as to why the auto validate didn't run please let me know.
Look at the log file for this specific backup (date and time it was created) and see what comments are there regarding validation.
Thanks for the update and your new found confidence. Grover