CLARIFICATIONS ON ACRONIS TRUE IMAGE 11

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I have several questions about ATI-11.
>Can ATI-11 be used to clone a new desktop with Windows 7 ?
>Looks like ATI-11 has no manufacture support or updates and is considered obsolete for the ATI-12 ? True / False ?
>What is the consequences if one goes into the Control Panel and removes the ATI-11 ?
How will the harddisc function with the programs removal ?
Thanks - ZeroBit

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 23:14
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If you are talking about ATI v11 (which precedes ATI 2009, therefore is different from ATI 2011):
V11 is not compatible with Windows 7, so you shouldn't install it. If the recovery disk from v11 sees your disks properly and you don't have a SSD, you can safely use the recovery CD. Since cloning should always be done from the recovery CD, you could get by.

If you are talking about ATi 2011, it is compatible with Windows7. Since cloning should be done from the recovery CD, if the recovery CD works on your computer, even if you have an SSD, but not if you have a GPT disk instead of an MBR disk, you can use the recovery CD to clone.

If you mean imaging, and not cloning, it is about the same, except that imaging can safely by done in Windows with 2011.

ATI v11 is obsolete. 2011 is still a valid solution. 2012 adds some new features, and a new UI.

You shouldn't/cannot have 2 versions installed on the same computer. If you go ahead and want to try 2012, do a complete backup with 2011 beforehand. THat backup will be a clean way to go back to 2011, in case 2012 doesn't fit your bill.

Upon uninstall of 2011, you shouldn't have any issues with your computer. Less certain with 2012, but your mileage will vary...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 05:12
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PAT L
Thanks for the reply.
If I understand your answers –
>ATI-2011 package with the CD program is good for Windows-7, but a Version-11 is not good for Windows-7.
I have the ATI-2011 off-the-shelf CD program. So I should be good to go.

>Since I have a “new” desktop that has not been used yet, my goal is to clone / image the H/D.
The desktop came preloaded with Windows-7 and I want to make sure that I have a way, in the future, to start fresh all over if needed.
The “back-up / clone / image” will be done to a new SATA H/D and stored away.

>I did not quite understand about the Recovery CD method you mentioned.
Can you clarify this information a tad bit more ?

>I understand that ATI “hijacks” the MBR and puts it own controls there as long as it is resides as a program.
That is why I was concerned about removing the ATI program.
I did not know when it vacated the MBR overlay, that it did not leave corrupted or incomplete data there.
Thanks

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 23:51
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When you restore a disk or a partition, you can theoritically launch ATI in Windows and start the restore. Don't do that. Boot your computer on the Acronis recovery CD and do the restore from the version of ATI running on the CD.

Before uninstalling ATI, deactivate the ASRM and delete the Acronis secure Zone as a precaution.

Thu, 01/12/2012 - 04:24
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Any idea on the following problem that I experienced with my new desktop ?

I took out of my “old” desktop my H/D and installed it in the new desktop.
I was expecting it to boot up and I could run the XP-Professional OS and programs.
It did not see the H/D in the new system.

My “old” desktop had a 20GB H/D, PATA and XP-Professional OS.
I ran out of space on the 20GB H/D, so I got a 500GB H/D, SATA, and use ATI-11 to clone the old to the new.
I use the 500GB H/D in the “old” system by using a coupling to convert SATA / PATA, and it works.
I do experience on startups a warning message the H/D needs to have the volume checked for disc errors.
But, it can take hours to check and does not report any errors.
So, every time on startups, I just opt out and go into the XP O/S without any noticeable problems.

It is a little confusing why the 500GB H/D fails to work in the new system.
What are your thoughts ?
--Thanks – ZeroBit--

Sat, 01/14/2012 - 23:07
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Did you clone, or did you do an image backup and then a restore?

Launch a command prompt with administrator rights (search for cmd.exe and run is as administrator). Then type chkdsk X: /r for each X partition on your disk.
If you can, right click on the computer icon your desktop, choose manage, storage, disk management. Post the screenshot of the disk management console to his forum.
Maybe the disk error is related to a hidden partition...

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 05:00
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What exactly do you mean by It did not see the H/D in the new system? Do you mean that the BIOS of the new system doesn't see the drive or do you mean it doesn't boot up properly? Make sure the drive is connected to an enabled SATA port and that the drive is correctly set in the boot order. Please note that even if this works the drive will probably not boot up correctly. The drivers installed are probably not correct for the new system, which can cause a BSOD. If it does boot into Windows expect Windows to deactivate. Any other activated programs will also usually deactivate.

Also, to avoid confusion, please use "TI 2011" for TI 2011 and not TI 11.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 06:45