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How do I delete old backups but keep initial?

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Hi,

I'm using atim 2012 on a win 7 laptop. I've recently had some back ups fail but got them working again by doing this http://kb.acronis.com/content/27431.

I am slightly confused. While I can certainly recreate a new backup (incremental with auto cleanup after 45 days) is there *any* way to keep the initial back up ( brand new, fresh install of my pc) from my plan that became corrupted ? I would love to be able to revert back to a fresh installation with all my basic programs installed (which is when I did the initial backup).

If not, I just want to know so I can move on.

Also, anyone who has any advice for deleting these old (from the corrupted) files? Can I just go to my backup drive and start deleting the ones/tib files that follow the old naming scheme?

Thanks!!!

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Leann,
You can copy the original backup file to a new location and save it for future use. Be sure to validate it once you have it in the new location. If it validates fine, you then could remove the tasks and backup files that you no longer need or can not access. It is best to delete the backup task and associated files from within Acronis 2012. If they do not show up in the Backup and Recovery tab, they can be deleted using Windows Explorer. Be sure to start your a new task pointing to an empty folder when starting over. Be sure to check out Grover's guide (Thanks Grover) http://forum.acronis.com/forum/28705 for additional tips and backup strategies.

Leann,

Only delete files and archives from within True Image itself.

I'm slightly confused by your confusion :)

Are you wanting to make an initial full disk image of your system and then have incrementals or do you have an archive currently that has incremental/differentials and you wish to delete them and only have the initial full?

If you want a 'gold standard' version of your system, then make a manual image of your disk naming it Master or something, then make a schedule and you will then get a full plus incrementals or differentials.

If you want to delete a bunch of incrementals, then you need to click on Recover find the archive you wish to change, find the incrementals and then select delete. This will delete each incremental and update the TI database.

Don't delete them via Windows Explorer, TI will become confused and your tasks will be all over the place.

You might not have noticed but you ahve posted this in the 2013 forum, if you edit your first post you can transfer this thread to the 2012 forum by clicking on the drop down box towards the top left of the text box and selecting 2012. This way other 2012 users can benefit.

" do you have an archive currently that has incremental/differentials and you wish to delete them and only have the initial full?" -< this is what I'm looking to do, if possible.

I would gladly trash all the incrementals from the initial and just start using the incrementals from here on out. I don't want to do a current-day initial, as now I've had the system for 8 months and the initial I'm trying to keep is the pristine install.

And I'm moving this to 2012- thanks for pointing out my mistake! Sorry about that

You can keep the intial backup that you have without keeping the incrementals. Copy it to a safe location. It can be used later to restore from.
My suggestion would be to copy the original file to a new location, and then validate it to be sure it still is in good shape. If you get error messages about missing versions during the validation, chose to ignore the missing version(s), and then try the validation again. I have done this numerous times, and do not have a problem when keeping the original backup file and tossing the incrementals. Just be sure to validate the original file after copying it to a new location.

It didn't work. It keeps asking for "specify the location of volume 1". I clicked retry at least 20 times but it kept asking. So then I browsed for the original location plus tried a few others- it didn't work. So I had to click cancel and the backup failed.

Any ideas?

I thought we were talking about keeping a backup to restore from. If you are going to continue to make backups, you would need to create a new backup task with a new destination for your backup files to be stored in.

As James suggested, you can copy the initial full to another place,validate it and that full should be recoverable by itself. You can'tremove the full from your actual backup archive though.

If that still fails, the best thing would be to delete the incrementals as I mentiond above, then copy the Full to a new folder, that becomes your 'master' copy and the original full can then have incrementals etc added to it.

It would be better to have done this the other way around, make a specific master with a one off task and then make a scheduled task that makes a new full and incremental/differentials. However, that option is no longer available to you unless you wish to take the machine state as it is today as the master.

***edited spelling mistake****

Ok maybe where I'm confusing you all is I don't see anything that says "initial" or incrementals. I'm a little confused on that.

So the backup I made of a copy of won't validate- can I ever use it for recovery?

Is there a help file that shows me what I should be seeing differently for incrementals? Because I just have a few things like Mybackup2(2) and whatnot. I don't see a way to keep the master and trash the rest.

You should be able to tell by the size of the image and there shouldn't be any numbers after it, also if you look at the image from within TI 2012 under the recover tab it will show you the first image and then list the 'sub' images under it.

If you could post a screenshot of your tib files as shown in Windows Explorer it would be helpful.

Strangely enough 2013 now solves that problem as it now uses the word 'full' in the file name for that image.

Note pictures 21 and 22 inside this link.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/28705
Right click on one of the tasks (such as My Backups) you have listed and click the option to "Explore and Recover".
This should cause a listing of each backup created by your task.If you hover your mouse over each slice, it should identify type of backup.
Also the listing should be in creation date sequence.

Your attachment shows the "My Backups" task to have 35 backups and each chain is a weekly chain of 1 full plus 6 inc) and the first full was created on July 7 (full because it is the largest and then the next full's created on the 14, 21, 28, and maybe Aug 4 (not shown). You screen capture is shown in date sequence so you can identify which inc belongs to each full chain.

Leann,

From your screenshots you appear to have multiple 'full' images.

MyBackup(1) and MyBackup(2) look as though they are Full images. Obviously MyBackup(1) is the first 'full'.

The incrementals are MyBackup(1)2.....7

If the Backupand recovery image is also of the same machine are the MyBackup(1) etc for indivdual partitions?

Not to change the subject, but the naming conventions implemented in 2013 would sure make this easier to deal with.

Yikes. Ok so I didn't see the right click on the recovery options and "expore and recover" so I just found that- thanks!!! First it asked me for the location for volume 1 (just like it did when I asked it to validate) and now I have a large black dialogue box " Browse for Backup (Not Responding)."

Is it just hosed??

OH! BtW, MyBackups are just files. Those work fine. The partitions (Mypartitions) is what I'm trying to save....

Based on your images of the backup files, you are possibly missing the first backup in the set of backups for your "My Partitions(2)" backup. The "My Partitions(2)2.tib" file may be part of a set or version chain that started with "My Partitions(2).tib" which may be missing. Looks like you might be missing version 3 and 6 from this set or version chain also. The "My Partitions(4)3.tib" looks like it validated okay and could be restored, but I would try and run a vaildation again on it to be sure."

Another thought. You can remove the task "My Partitions(2)7" from your "Backup and Recovery" tab by clicking the gear icon to the right side of the task and select more, and then remove from the list. This will remove the task, but leave the backup files alone. Do not select "delete" from the gear menu or you will delete the backup files, as well as removing them from the list. Then create a new folder on the drive that you have the backup files on, and move the "My Partitions(2)2.tib" to the new folder (Don't copy, just "cut and paste" or "move" the file). Then use the "browse for backup" button on the Backup and Recovery" tab near the top of the screen, and browse to the file ("My Partitions(2)2.tib") in the new location, then click "add to backup list" to place it back on your "Backup and Recovery" tab. It should show up as "My Partitions(2)2" with 1 version. Then try to "Explore and Recover" the backup file. If you get any errors about missing versions/files, tell Acronis to "Ignore this version". You may have to do the "ignore" more than one time. If you get past the "ignores", you could exit the "Explore and Recover" window and then try to validate the file. If it validates, your would then be able to restore it. Since this looks like the only valid file based on it's size, I would start with this one. You could repeat this procedure for each of the "My Partitions(2)X" files (placing each one in its own folder temporarily) to see if any are restorable individually. In the future, it is a good idea to create folders for each of the different backup tasks you create. This would help with staying better organized by keeping all the files for each task separate from each other. Less chance of accidental deletions.