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Hi,
I am preparing to install a new hardrive in my laptop. I am using the same size and brand of HD but I'm not sure if all the paramaters are the same beyond that.
In order to restore to my previous state as of my last backup (using one click protection), do I simply put in my bootable recovery disk that I made and then hook up my external HD? Or, do I need to use the recovery disk from the OS?
I hope it is as easy as the promo's make it out to be.

Any help is appreciated as this is my first time.

I am using TI 2009

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 15:19
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Hopefully, it will go smoothly, but it's better to be prepared before you begin.

  1. Create a TI CD.
  2. Connect the external drive.
  3. Boot to the TI CD and make sure it can correctly see both the internal drive and the external drive. If it can, skip Step 4.
  4. Log into your Acronis account and download the current ISO (bootable media) for TI 2009. Create another CD using the ISO (you can use any ISO capable burning program). This version uses a different loader and may contain more updated drivers than the version you can create using TI. Boot to this CD as in Step 3.
  5. Validate the backup image on the external drive to make sure TI can read it successfully.

If all the above checks out okay, you should be ready to do the restore.

  1. Remove the internal drive and install the new drive.
  2. Connect the external drive.
  3. Boot to the TI CD and restore the backup image to the new drive.
  4. Remove the TI CD and reboot the computer. Note that you may need to change to BIOS boot order so the new drive is set in the correct order (DVD >> HD, etc.).

You may want to look at Grover's Sticky thread. It contains many helpful guides.

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 17:01
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In the PDF directions that came with Acronis it says that you should try to run acronis from windows. I guess I won't have windows on a new hard drive. If I change the Acronis Bootable rescue disk that I made, won't that make it incompatable with what's on my external hard drive? Crap, Maybe I should call Acronis and pay them to walk me through it. It sounds pretty easy though....

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 21:48
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Been reading in Grover's sticky thread and am going to try to do the validation. Does the startup recovery manager need to be activated before doing any of this? mine says it's not activated.

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 21:57
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The Acronis CD doesn't normally need to changed for computer changes. In other words, if you install TI on Computer A and create the TI CD and then you install TI on Computer B and create another TI CD, the two will be the same.

The ASRM does not need to be activated. Just boot to the TI CD. The program looks and functions almost exactly as in Windows (some features aren't available). The drive letter assignments may be different (they usually are). Make sure you have given each partition a meaningful label.

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 22:02
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I am in the process right now. I found where it says validate under operations and have gone to my last update with the tib extentions. Just getting ready to try to validate them. Do you have to do just one at ta time or is there a way to validate all 11 (in my case) at the same time?

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 22:06
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Wheww! I was worried because I could only add #11. If it validates I should be good to go for the restore after I install the new hard drive right? By the way Mr. Mud Crab, I really appreciate the help. Thanks.

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 22:14
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That's correct. Assuming, of course, that the internal (or destination) drive is seen properly by TI.

You're welcome.

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 22:18
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I have to ask, what in the heck would keep the new drive from being seen? If it isn't recognized am I screwed?

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 22:24
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Did you see the internal drive when you were browsing for the image files on the external drive? If so, there shouldn't be a problem.

The Full Mode version of TI is based on Linux. Because of this, it uses Linux drivers to access the drives. If it doesn't have the correct driver for the computer's controller, it won't see the drives connected to it.

If there is a problem (hopefully, there won't be), you can try the downloaded ISO file (usually has more updated drivers) along with different startup options. If that doesn't work, there are other options such as a BartPE/WinPE/VistaPE CD.

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 22:29
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The backup validated without issue and all drives are recognized. I guess we'll see what the end result is tomorrow evening after I get the HD from the ups guy. It's kind of exiting in a twisted sort of way. One lesson learned is that this validation process should have been done long before any problems occured. I am going to exit the bootable CD now and put it away until tomorrow. I am guessing that the instructions are pretty simple after I click on the manage and restore button tomorrow. I guess we'll find out

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 22:52
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Mike

I see you used the 1 Click Backup to make the backup

Do you have any other partitions on the drive that you have backed up? Is there a laptop makers restore partition for instance so you can restore it to the original default if you wish?

1 Click only backs up the system partition and MBR so if you restore the image to another drive you will only get them and not any other partition that was on the original drive.

If the boot drive has just one partition (as has mine) then 1 Click will backup what is on the drive and restore will put it back

If the drive has more than one partition you will have to make full backup of the drive plus the MBR

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 23:30
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Yikes. Your over my head. Would another partition be like having another user on the computer? On the external HD where I backed up to I have my desktop and my laptop..seperate of course. On the laptop it's just me as it is a business computer. I don't know what an MBR is. I kind of interpreted the PDF directions that came with Acronis and did my best to follow what they said. When I made the backup each time I used the one click protection because it was simple like me. :) I would delete the old ones off the external as I saw fit. The way I discovered that my drive was going bad was that it had been a while since the last backup and when I tried to do it Acronis would not. That lead me eventually to a BIOS diagnostic on the drive which said get a new one. That's kind of where I am at.

Just hoping and praying that everything is restored tomorrow, save the data that has been accumulated since the last backup which is set aside for after the restore to the new hard drive.

Tue, 01/12/2010 - 23:42
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Sorry for the techno language. Another partition is not like another user

A physical computer hard drive can be divided into partitions or it can be just one partition. A bit like you can have a box of one big space or you can put in a divider and have two separate parts of the box. MBR is a special bit on the drive that tells the computer where to find the files to boot into the operating system. You need to back that up so when you restore the computer to the new drive it will boot up into the operating system

If your box only has one big space then it only has one partition and that is the system partition that has the operating system (e.g Windows) on it plus various folders in that space that has your programmes and business data on it. Windows gives the different partitions different letters to identify them.

Typically the system partition is called C and the CD/DVD is called D for a computer that has just one drive with one partition and a CD/DVD

Your USB external drive would have been given a letter each time you plugged it in.

True Image can save the entire box and hence saves all the partitions by default or it can just save one of the partitions (just part of the box).

Some times laptops are setup so they have a special part of the box so if you push special keys during booting you can restore the system partition to its original state when it was new. Of course you loose all your data that may have been stored on that partition subsequently.

If you have no need to want to do that then it would not matter if that special part was not restored.

The critical point is to make sure you know where your data was being stored.

On your laptop when you save files do you only see a C: for the hard drive?. There may be a D: for a CD/DVD. Did you save your data in My Documents?

I assume the data that needs restoring are data files (doc,xls, etc) you are just going to copy across from the external drive manually when the new drive is installed and restored.

Because I am a belts and braces type of person if possible I would copy over from the original drive to the external drive any critical business data you need. This means you will have two copies of it. One in the TI tib file and one in the normal format (doc, xls) on the USB drive plus you would have the original drive anyway

Sorry to make it sound confusing but given you have critical business data on the drive you want to make sure it will be restored on the new drive.

Make sure you keep the old drive for a while.

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I am the only user on the laptop. The drives are local disk (C:), HP recovery (D:), DVD RW (E:) and as you said when I use the USB different devices have different letters. I am in a bad spot sort of. I couldn't back up the drive if I wanted to because it's bad. Acronis wont do it. That's how I came to realize the hard drive needs to be replaced. Acronis couldn't read certain sectors and the check disk diagnostic kept hanging up. BIOS diagnostic told me to replace the drive.

I did what you said and moved all my files over to the external drive by drag and drop so I have two copies. I don't have the programs on there except in the .tib files. If worst comes to worst and Acronis doesn't work I do have the system recovery disks that I can use for the OS and then reload and update all the other software (major pain), but all indications point to Acronis being able to get the job done.

Great advice! I appreciate it and have followed it. Soon will be the time to see if the investment in Acronis was worth it. I will be sure to sing its praises if all goes well.

Thanks a bunch and I'll post after the fact one way or the other. I might even be on here looking for help if things don't go smooth. Let's hope not though. :)

Wed, 01/13/2010 - 01:26