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Hi,

About a year ago I bought a 1TB drive to use just for backup but recently I've been running out of space! I noticed when I edit the settings of my Win7 x64 C: partition backup (just to see if maximum compression would help save space) that it strongly suggests I include the "system reserved partition", which it considers to be D:. The D: partition actually has my original XP installation so I am already backing it up separately. [I suspect this has something to do with the boot menu...]

First question - Do I also need to backup D: separately or is the combined C:/D: backup enough for me to restore D: from?

Second question - If I need to back up D: twice would it be easy to put the reserved partition on a smaller purpose-made partition?

I have a 3rd partition (E:) also with Win7 x64. The backup for that doesn't suggest a 2nd system reserved partition be included.

Third question - Is this because I booted on C:? (I don't run ATIH from D; or E:) Does it mean I probably won't be able to restore E:, or do C: & E: share the same reserved partition?

Fourth question - My system reserved partition is on the same drive as my Acronis Secure Zone partition. Is this a bad move?

Thanks in advance.

Rob

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 15:10
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For some reason, Win7 installation sometimes decides to put the system reserved partition in strange places. Most often it is just a 100MB hidden partition before the C:\partition. Don't worry about its location. If you were to lose it, you would be able to repair your system with the Windows installation DVD. If you use BitLocker, however, make sure you backup your Bitlocker keys.

Robad wrote:

First question - Do I also need to backup D: separately or is the combined C:/D: backup enough for me to restore D: from?

If you have a disk and partition backup of D:\ = system reserved partition, you are in good shape.

Second question - If I need to back up D: twice would it be easy to put the reserved partition on a smaller purpose-made partition?

You don't need to back it up twice. You could move the system reserved partition to a smaller partition, but it is not worth the trouble and risk (of moving partitions around).

I have a 3rd partition (E:) also with Win7 x64. The backup for that doesn't suggest a 2nd system reserved partition be included.

Only one system reserved partition is necessary to contain the boot configuration files for all the system partitions on your system.

Third question - Is this because I booted on C:? (I don't run ATIH from D; or E:) Does it mean I probably won't be able to restore E:, or do C: & E: share the same reserved partition?

If you need to restore one system partition, you shouldn't, in most cases, have to restore the system reserved partition. It won't hurt if you do. If you restore to a blank(ed) disk, you have to restore it.

Fourth question - My system reserved partition is on the same drive as my Acronis Secure Zone partition. Is this a bad move?

Not particularly because of the system reserved partition. As you know, the ASZ will be of no use to you if your disk dies, so you'd better have some backups for the backups in the ASZ.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 15:26
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Pat L wrote:
For some reason, Win7 installation sometimes decides to put the system reserved partition in strange places. Most often it is just a 100MB hidden partition before the C:\partition. Don't worry about its location. If you were to lose it, you would be able to repair your system with the Windows installation DVD. If you use BitLocker, however, make sure you backup your Bitlocker keys.
Robad wrote:

First question - Do I also need to backup D: separately or is the combined C:/D: backup enough for me to restore D: from?

If you have a disk and partition backup of D:\ = system reserved partition, you are in good shape.

Second question - If I need to back up D: twice would it be easy to put the reserved partition on a smaller purpose-made partition?

You don't need to back it up twice. You could move the system reserved partition to a smaller partition, but it is not worth the trouble and risk (of moving partitions around).

I have a 3rd partition (E:) also with Win7 x64. The backup for that doesn't suggest a 2nd system reserved partition be included.

Only one system reserved partition is necessary to contain the boot configuration files for all the system partitions on your system.

Third question - Is this because I booted on C:? (I don't run ATIH from D; or E:) Does it mean I probably won't be able to restore E:, or do C: & E: share the same reserved partition?

If you need to restore one system partition, you shouldn't, in most cases, have to restore the system reserved partition. It won't hurt if you do. If you restore to a blank(ed) disk, you have to restore it.

Fourth question - My system reserved partition is on the same drive as my Acronis Secure Zone partition. Is this a bad move?

Not particularly because of the system reserved partition. As you know, the ASZ will be of no use to you if your disk dies, so you'd better have some backups for the backups in the ASZ.

Thanks for an excellent reply Pat. I guessed that if someone knew one answer they'd know them all :-)

Because I'm a bit slow on the uptake, forgive me for asking for clarification...

If you have a disk and partition backup of D:\ = system reserved partition, you are in good shape.

Are you saying the I can restore my whole D: partition from my combined C: + system reserved partition (SRP) backup? ATIH doesn't just back up the important system data on the SRP?

If you need to restore one system partition, you shouldn't, in most cases, have to restore the system reserved partition. It won't hurt if you do. If you restore to a blank(ed) disk, you have to restore it.

Perhaps I neglected to say that the C:, D: and E: partitions are all on different disks.

Fourth question - My system reserved partition is on the same drive as my Acronis Secure Zone partition. Is this a bad move?

Again maybe I didn't explain well enough. C: is on one drive. D: and ASZ are on another. I only backup C: to ASZ. Maybe that answers my question - I'm backing up C: & D: to the ASZ on the same drive as D: so if the disk dies I lose D: completely! - unless I back it up to another disk as well.

Is it fair enough to say in general that if your SRP is on a different disk to your system partition (SP) then you don't need to include it in the backup??

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 17:11
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Robad wrote:

Are you saying the I can restore my whole D: partition from my combined C: + system reserved partition (SRP) backup? ATIH doesn't just back up the important system data on the SRP?

No. I am saying that if you have disk and partition backup of D:\ and D:\ contains your system reserved files, then you are in good shape. The critical boot files can be seen by unhiding hidden files AND protected system files. You should see some bootmgr file and a boot folder.

Perhaps I neglected to say that the C:, D: and E: partitions are all on different disks.

Not an issue.

Again maybe I didn't explain well enough. C: is on one drive. D: and ASZ are on another. I only backup C: to ASZ. Maybe that answers my question - I'm backing up C: & D: to the ASZ on the same drive as D: so if the disk dies I lose D: completely!

Exactly.

Is it fair enough to say in general that if your SRP is on a different disk to your system partition (SP) then you don't need to include it in the backup??

No. You need to include it in your backup. If you don't, you will be able to fix the system by using the installation DVD. The procedure is relatively simple, but why bother?
If you want to isolate your system on C:\ (like many ATI users want to do), you could use a partition manager (like EaseUS, or ATI disk director) to move your partitions around on C:\, and move the systme reserved partition to C:\. YOu will have to use the Windows DVD to adjust the boot records, and you run some risk by just moving partitions around, but if you have the disk and partitions backup(s) we talked about, you can take the (slight) risk.

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