TI 2010 or TI2011 for Win 7?
I use TI 2009. To me it’s been the best release of TI.
I’ve read a lot of forum topics and I have a few questions.
1. My understanding is that TI 2009 does not support WIN 7. Is this true?
2. I’m assuming that for Win7 machines, both 32 and 64 bit, I will have to go to either TI 2010 or TI 2011. Are there any opinions as to which is the better release?
Thanks,
TIH 2010 works fine for me with Win 7 so I'll not be upgrading...
Win7 x64 recently started refusing to run TIH 2010 with the message that the program was not compatible so run it at your own risk.
I tried the TIH 2011 trial. First impressions were favourable but I became uneasy about the danger of such close integration with Win7 - I am concerned that Microsoft updates might well stop TIH 2011 working in the future with consequent delays while Acronis develop patches.
Win7's much improved native backup facilities are adequate for me (especially as image backups are stored as VHDs which can be mounted allowing access to individual files).
I uninstalled TIH 2011 but this trashed native Win7 Backup & Restore . This is a recognised 'Hot Issue' with a fix that requires hacking the registry to remove remnant TI stuff. Permissions on the keys must first be changed to allow update.
Two questions:
1. Can I use TI2009 with Win7? At least the 32 bit version.
2. Why can't TI just get better with each new version, instead of screwing up in a new way?
2010 was heavily bugged and didnt get fixed. 2011 fixed many of those bugs. The major bug with 2010 in my case was the password backup one. If you use a password and/or encryption, your backups got mucked up and would keep asking for last volume if you needed to review or restore from them. That made it unuseable.
So 2011 is probably better than 2010. But can I use 2009 for win7. Has 2011 come up with the usual single update that fixes everything that's going to be fixed until they roll out 2012?
Since "2010 was heavily bugged and didn't get fixed." I'm not optimistic about 2011. New builds of 2010 were released, but did not fix the most egregious bugs. A final revision was promised by Acronis support, but that promise was later explicitly reneged upon. Until I see a clear indication of a change in this forum, I'm working under the assumption that the bug fix for 2011 will be sold as 2012. I'm currently using a backup solution that starts with "M" - we'll see how it works.
Acronis management's decision to implement a forced "ready-or-not we want your money" annual upgrade schedule means customers pay for beta software and pay twice (or more) for bug fixes. This strategy is severely damaging the company's reputation. Sometimes a software vendor needs to concentrate on bug fixes for a while. A new version is not called for or is not ready to go out the door to be sold. Acronis goes ahead and pushes the new version anyway because the temporary boost to their income stream is more important than your data. I don't know if erosion of customer base is entered into their calculations.
Let us know how the current version of "M" works out. I tried "MR" several years ago. At that time it's file based backups couldn't select files in the root of any folder (e.g. My Documents). They tried to justify this unacceptable shortcoming by telling me I needed to reorganizing my files to accommodate their backup software. So I dumped them.
You might want to check out "P" while your at it. ;-)
Yes of course that's what they're doing. It's more like a yearly license fee we're paying. Except that if they would just take the fee and do nothing else other than make the core product better, I guess I'd be OK with that. But after one has invested so much time in understanding how a product works, and then have it stop working in the next release.......
gotcha over a barrel. I just wish they'd make consolidation work. That's so important in terms of automatic backups.
Roger that's exactly right. A yearly license fee would be a more honest version of what Acronis is trying to do now and would free them to focus on bugs and add features when they're really needed and ready for market instead of having to create new features helter-skelter on a fixed schedule every single year. Just charging for major upgades every 2-3 years when they are actually ready for release (like RoboForm, Ultra Recall and many other honest vendors) would be even better, but it might be asking a bit much from this company.
Anyway, maybe some smart support person will be brave enough to present this kind of feedback (found all over this site, on Amazon, etc.) to management...
Roger,
To answer your original question, yes, you can use ATI 2009 on Winodws 7. I use it on my wife's laptop running Win7 Home Premium. ATI 2009 will run on both 32bit and 64bit Win7 platforms.
Well, this certainly answers my question. I tried 2010. In less than a week, the party was over. I applied for and received my refund. I was hoping that 2011 was actually a decent product. Apparently not. I hope Acronis goes back to their roots. I've been using Acronis since early 2004. I'm loathe to switch to a different product, but it is what it is.
Roger:
I'm still using 2009 in my Win 7 x64 ultimate setup. In fact, I have multiple registered copies. It works great with win7 and is not buggy at all. For greatest success, before installing, right click on TrueImage2009.9809_s_en.exe, choose properties, click compatibility tab and set compatibility for Vista. If you have issues, You may also want to set compatibility on the shortcut
Also, assuming this is on an existing system, make sure that there are no other versions of Acronis on the machine. You can use AcronisCleanUp.exe, but before doing so, create an image of your system drive so that you can revert if necessary.
The only caveat to using an older version of TI is that, on new systems, TI may not support the controller, leaving it unable to find any drives.
I guess I'm staying with 2009 until either Acronis fixes its bugs or I move on to a different solution. Perhaps WIndows Imaging will sonn become consistent. They are improving on it. All the more reason for Acronis to return to the Quality Conrol of times past.
MH
All right. I'll stick with 2009. It does the job. Backups are such a critical aspect computing. Thanks and good luck.
Hi folks,
System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.
I've been using Acronis True Image 11 Home. Made a few backups, tried the boot CD and all drives appear as they should, including C: drive, system reserved, MBT and external usb 2.0 harddrive. I have yet to try out a restore image.
My question is, I'm interested in purchasing an e-sata drive simply because it may be a tad faster than usb 2.0. Any foreseeable recognition problems with e-sata drives and ATI 11 Home?
cheers,
MP
I'm trying to run ti2009 on win7x64 but whenever I start it, it keeps on grabbing more and more memory. When it gets to 2GB of real memory it goes down. I've run it in Vista and Windows XP SP3 compatibility mode with the same results. I tried installing TI2011 before and that didn't run at all. Every time I uninstall I run the newest Acronis uninstall utility. Very frustrating. I need to be able to run TI on this machine.
@MP,
If you are talking about 2011, then I can tell you that the e-sata drive is working on my system with 2011.
Win 7 Ultimate x64, Marvell e-sata controller installed on the Intel DX58SO board.
That doesn't mean it will necessarily work on yours, but it is a data point.
Since this thread rose to the surface again, I'll take this opportunity to ammend my previous stance on 2011. I decided to try it, used Revo Uninstaller to remove 2009, installed 2011 (5519 and currently 6597) and am completely satisfied. Very stable, responsive and is noticeably faster at creation and restoral. Simply put, aside from some interface quirks, I'm completely satisfied.
MH
MH - I'm using an eSATA with 2011 on my Win7 x64 Lenovo W700 and just did a full restore using a TIB file. BTW the eSATA is MUCH faster than USB2.
MH - I'm using an eSATA with 2011 on my Win7 x64 Lenovo W700 and just did a full restore using a TIB file. BTW the eSATA is MUCH faster than USB2.
I haven't gotten around to trying esata. I have several bare drives and use a sata front panel (win 7 AHCI mode).
MH
Since this thread rose to the surface again, I'll take this opportunity to ammend my previous stance on 2011. I decided to try it, used Revo Uninstaller to remove 2009, installed 2011 (5519 and currently 6597) and am completely satisfied. Very stable, responsive and is noticeably faster at creation and restoral. Simply put, aside from some interface quirks, I'm completely satisfied.
MH
Thanks for the update. Sounds like the bug fixes are finally catching up. Recent TI versions have tended to be unstable--especially on newer or more challenging configurations (64- bit, eSATA, 2TB drives, RAID, etc.)--until after approx. 3 to 6 months of bug fixes.
FYI on my new desktop I have eSATA, internal SATA and RAID 6 (3ware 9560SE adapter). So far no issues. I use TI to backup to the RAID, I just realized that I have not attempted a recovery test using the TI recovery CD (I don't know if TI will see the RAID when I boot off of the TI recovery CD). This could pose a major issue and for this system it may be necessary to BU to an eSATA or NAS unit. I'll try to test later this week.