Vista cloned drive will not boot - original does????

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Hi
I am running the 2009 version and have the latest update.
I have a Dell Inspiron 1525. The drive was getting errors so I cloned it. I have tried this 3 times. I have tried going in with the repair disk and run bootrec and tried FixMbr, FixBoot, and several other options trying to get this to boot. When it searches for a OS it finds the Vista OS but when I perform the comands they come back and say "Operating systems found 0" operation completed successfully.

I put the old drive back in and it loads. I try cloning again and still the same. If I hit F8 to load the cloned drive I get 1 line loaded and it stalls. I am cloning using the Automatic feature. One funny thing on this compared to other clones I have done is there are 4 partitions on this drive. I am attaching a screen shot of the Disk Management.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Tue, 12/21/2010 - 18:59
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Your windows system disk (Disk 0--Drive C) shows only one partition and I assume this what you are trying to clone.

I am also assuming that your are trying to clone Disk 0 to Disk 1 (500GB) If yes, when the clone is completed, there should only be one large partition on the Disk 1.

If the above is true, I would
1. temporarily remove the data cables from the 200 GB (disk 3)and 250GB (disk 4) disks. These appear to be other Windows bootable versions and Windows can get confused.

2. Boot from the TI Rescue CD
Be careful, the disk numbers will begin with 1 so your Vista system should be disk 1.

2a. use the TI Add disk function and delete the 3 unwanted partitions on the 500 gb disk so all the space becomes unallocated.

3. Clone using Automatic or Manual. If Manual, you can see what is going to occur.

4. Clone to the 500 GB drive and shutdown. Remove the data cables from the old 160 GB system disk.
5. Reboot with only the cloned 500gb disk attached.

6. You may end up with unallocated space and if you do, that is easily correctable.

If you do not like cloning, you can also achhieve the same results by performing a disk restore; or a partition restore with resize.
Still booted from the Rescue CD and same disconnect procedures.

Tue, 12/21/2010 - 20:06
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Hi
Thanks for the response.
The screen shot shows the original and cloned drive at the bottom. Remember I said the drive I was cloning had 4 partitions. They are SATA drives in USB adapters. I have done this many times with no problems. Vista sucks. Trying to get it started once it breaks is a real chore.
I did a scandisk /f/r on the flakey drive and then did it again and it came back good. So I try cloning and it will not start from the cloned drive even though the original drive will boot every time.

Thanks for the help.
Kerry

Tue, 12/21/2010 - 22:37
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I was working with bootrec on a HP Vista system a few days ago. It came back with the operating systems found 0, command completed successfully. It did boot up so I don't know how much you should be concerned about the 0 found message. I did the /Fixmbr, /Fixboot and /RebuildBCD options.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 00:20
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Kerry,
Couple thoughts.
1. If you are satisfied with the expanded sizes of the smaller partitions, then you might be able to fix your problem by using your Vista CD and to a repair.
or
2. If you want to clone so the sizes are all the same as original sizes except for the largest partition, I can help you do that but after that, you may still have to use the Vista CD and do a repair.

3. Before doing either of these, I would remove the data cable on the first two drives so only the source and target are connected when doing the repair.

4. If interested in doing #2, then I need to see a picture of how your drives are being seen by TI within the cloning procedure.
This can be a simulation done from within Windows using TI. Click on my signature index below and select item 3-CC which is a cloning guide. Perform steps as outlined by images 1---9. When you get to Figure 9, do a screen capture of your screen at this point so I can see how TI is displaying your partitions.

If you continue with #4, this is the picture that I am asking to see except your screen capture would not have the notes and the partitions listing and sizes would differ. Your partiton numbers will appear in numeric sequence if your perform Figure 8 as requested before doing the screen capture of screen 9.

Click image to enlarge viewing.

Wed, 12/22/2010 - 01:18
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Hi
Sorry for the late response. I tried a new drive and still had problems. I ran chkdsk on the original again and it corrected some more errors that had popped back in. Immediatly tried Cloning again and was able to get a good copy.
Thanks for the help. I still wonder why the original would load and the copy wold not, but that is probably Vista.

Thanks
Kerry

Thu, 12/30/2010 - 16:36
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More likely it was they way True Image built the target disk and if there were problems with the structure then it may have made some errors. True Image is actually quite tolerant of such errors but every now and then it gets confused.

I don't know for sure but I think the only thing that does a real sector for sector copy is creating an image with the "sector by sector" option checked. In this case the entire partition, whether used or not, is copied.

Thu, 12/30/2010 - 20:42