well, ANOTHER failed backup..
As part of my ongoing testing before purchasing this I found that ati2011 will not restore a system recovery partition on a gateway machine. The disk layout is simple, the first 6GB is a restore partition, and the remaining 142GB is the standard C partition. I can restore the C partition but not the system recovery partition. Why is this crap not fixed.
I did a backup verification and it validated just fine.
In my humble opinion, the software is dumb and stupit! it "SAYS" it backed up the complete drive. But apparently not. But it isn't smart enough to restore it.If it says it backed it up, then why does it fail to restore.. frakking crap..
Shouldn't it warn you sometime during the backup that it will have a problem instead of blindly leading you on??
AND instead of letting me restore the C partition *THEN* the recovery partition, it just goes and erases C and fails on the recovery partition.
It said something about error 0x70001.. Now how is a computer illiterate supposed to use this?!?!?!?
Unknown about the standard disk geometry. Though I tend to say it is standard, I might heard that before somewhere. And while poking around a while back on other systems similar, I recall it being standard stuff. The gateway restore partition is/was accessible with a regular nt boot disk and other utility disks.
When mounting the image, I can see files in both partitions, just as I would expect.
I did selected the complete disk option, when I clicked on the disk icon, it selected the mbr, and both the fat 32 and ntfs partitions.
I restored to the exact same disk the data came off of.
I am performing the restore from the rescue disk.
Also, It would seem I can restore one, and make use of one. But just one partition at a time. ati2011 gives me that error 0x70001 when I try to restore the whole disk, meaning both partitions and the mbr.
When you say complete disk, are you referring to a sector-by-sector dupe?? Or just grabbing the 2 parts and mbr??
When you say complete disk, are you referring to a sector-by-sector dupe?? Or just grabbing the 2 parts and mbr??
No I meant ticking the disk box icon insteadn of the individual partitions.
The 0x70001 error is that from a BSOD or an OS message box? By the way which OS are you using? If it is Vista or W7 then it could be down to the BCD being 'narked'. There are two ways the information in the BCD can be written, it could have absolute pointers to where the various files are or it can have relative pointers.
Sometimes with Dell machines the F8 (or is it F4 recovery option?) gets overwritten as TI can plonk down a generic MBR which wipes out the non standard MBR used by many OEM machines.
As Gateway went bust where I live many years ago and are no longer available, I don't have too much knowledge on their vagaries. It does sound as though this might be what is happening.
How are you retrieving your system back? TI will wipe the drive before restoring an image when it's working properly.
Yes, I clicked on the box, and when I did so, all three items got checked then, the mbr, the fat32 part, and the ntfs part.
The 0x70001 is an acronis generated error number. Generated and output to the log when a restore attempt is made. The restore goes fine all the way to the last 2 seconds of a 20 minute run. Then it says operation failed. Read the log, and that was the only error code present. The log was short anyways and just had times of things, thats it.
If truimage is writing a generic mbr, then what is the point of backing up the mbr in the first place? And why would they write something different than what is supposed to be there?? What is whole frakking point of doing a disk image with ati2011 then??
So basically, ati2011 is incapable of doing a drive image then. That means it is useless for cloning a drive, and imaging a drive. Obviously they cannot get the job done! Perhaps we should call it FalseImage-2011 instead?!?!
Try it without ticking the MBR.
It is only OEM machines that often have non standard MBR's, there are many reasons why manufactures do this - partly to allow them to run their special recovery utilities and other devices.
If an MBR is damaged whichis the cause of needing to restore an image, it can be better to have a generic MBR inserted so that at least the system will boot.
What OS are you using?
Have you included the Disk Signature?
Cloning a drive isn't quite the same as imaging one.
I'm off to bed now, so if none of my instructions work, I can only suggest raising a ticket with Acronis chat support.
I suppose I can try it without the mbr. This is windows XP sp2 based system. Nothing else.
My project is to make an exact duplicate of the disk so that it may be restored in its entirety. I want to get everything. So apparently imaging is only good for partitions, cloning would be for the whole disk.
This needs to be made just a little easier, even though I am a technical type. Now I am more confused. I can only imagine the totally NON-tech types.
Well anyways, what IS* the difference between cloning and imaging? And is imaging enough if I just want to get one main partition, say like, the winXP installation - C drive ??
I basically want to capture EVERYTHING, in case the drive completely dies. I want to be able to restore the entire system, complete, lock, stock, and barrel !!
I also want to do this with a USB drive. So what is the ultimate recommendations as far as program options go?
Oh, and I think the partition table has absolute references, because, depending on the order of the restored partitions, sometimes it works and when I swap the order around, it doesn't. Ohh well. I'll eventually get this all..
Keatah,
For a discussion of the differeneces between cloning and imaging, look at item 3-D inside my signature index below. As Colin stated, when you checkmark the disk as to what is being backed up, you are getting everything on the disk and this is the preferred type of backup as it offers the most options for restoration of any or all partitions.
On the next line is a link to a pdf I have been working on for 2011 This guide relates to retoring a Windws 7 Gateway installation but should be applicable to an XP install as well. You're welcome to use this to see if it resolves your problems.
https://forum.acronis.com/sites/default/files/privatemsg/nov26-gh_2011_…
TrueImage prvides two methods of replicating a disk which is the clone method or the restore image method. Both will re-produce your system on a new or old drive. While the clone method is slightly quicker, many of us will not use the clone method due to the risk factor yp to the master, whereas, using the restore method, there is no risk to the master as it is not attached. The advantage of using a disk image for restoration is that you have access to all the partitions and restore single or multiple partitions from the whole disk backup image.
You mention wanting to clone to a usb but is NOT the preferrred method although that method may work for many providing the system being duplicated is not a IBM or Lenova laptop because of their special disk geometry. Your best chance of good results is if you put the new disk in its intended boot position. This is really not an inconvenience as you must test the disk anyway after completion without any other disk attached and the only way you know if the new will boot is to have it attached in its boot position.
Addendum:
When wanting to duplicate a disk using the restore method, you can also use the disk option restore method which whereby you checkmark the disk as to what is to be restored. This works well when restoring to the same size disk. If this method is used for restoring to a larger disk, then all partitions are proportionally restored and this a waste of space and the resize method is better to control partition sizes to a larger disk. When using the restore method to a new disk, it is generally better to also checkmark "Recover disk signature" which appears on the same screen where the target disk is selected.
Ok that helps!
I shall continue my evaluation and see how reliable and consistent I can do this.