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Hey all. I've got three PC's that I use regularly, and I'm wondering if it would be possible to create bootable clones of all three system drives onto one external drive with multiple partitions. Kind of a universal safety drive. My system drives are pretty large, but much of the space is used for data that is backed up regularly and separately, and it would be nice to be able to have a single, smaller drive that contains only each computers' critical system installations for quick emergency recovery but without wasting hundreds of gigabytes of space. My limited understanding of the process leads me to believe this can't be done because the cloning process partitions a drive as it creates the clone, but hopefully I'm wrong. If that's the case, can I assume my clone drives can be smaller than the system drives?

Any help appreciated.

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No. You misunderstand what a clone is.

My best advice: Do not Clone! Instead, do one extra step and create a full disk Backup to an external drive. If ever you need to return to that image state, you would do a full disk Restore/Recovery. You can store full disk Backups of all your PCs on a single external hard drive, no partitioning required.

There is rarely a need to Clone. Really, Backup is safer and more flexible. Many users encounter problems Cloning which they would not have if they had instead used Backup.

1. Don't use Clone. Do a full disk Backup, selecting the entire disk, and a Restore. The end result will be the same as Clone, but with many advantages.

2. Check out the many user guides and tutorials in the left margin of this forum, particularly Getting Started and Grover's True Image Guides which are illustrated with step-by-step screenshots.

A full disk backup, selecting the disk checkbox rather than individual partitions, includes everything. It includes everything that a clone would include.

The difference is that while a clone immediately writes that information a single time to another drive, a backup is saved as a compressed .tib archive. As such, multiple .tib archives may be saved to a single backup drive, allowing for greater redundancy, security and flexibility.

Once a full disk image .tib archive is restored to a drive, the result is the same as if that drive had been the target of a clone done on the date and time that the backup archive was created.

Clone is riskier because we've seen situations where users mistakenly choose the wrong drive to clone from and to, thus wiping out their system drive.

Thanks for the info, Tuttle. So with the full disk backups, I could place them all on a single, external drive, and in the case of a system drive crash, I could restore the full disk from the appropriate computer's backup file. Excellent. For that scenario, would I need to create a separate optical boot disk for each computer, to be able to access the full backup file?

You're right in that I don't fully understand the process. My impression from previous discussions has been that copies or backups sometimes don't include hidden authorization files for certain products (very important in my business), while sector-by-sector cloning does. Not true? Or no longer true?

Sean,

The recovery CD works more or less the same as the Windows version, so it will see all your image archives stored on your backup drive, no matter which computer they originated on or are to be restored to.

If a complete disk image is made (you know you are making a complete disk image because instead of seeing partitions listed in the source box you will see the name of the disk), all the used sectors including the MBR (if an MBR formatted drive) will be included. The confusion sometimes arises because by default TI shows the partition layout and sometimes users forget to ensure all the partitions are ticked (selecting 'disk' solves this) including the root item the disk itself.

So some users will tick the 'C' partition which does not by itself contain hidden partitions, instead of the actual top tick box. There are some OEM PC that have slightly odd arrangements and require a complete disk image in order to restore properly.

Software that ties its licence to disk ID's look for the disk signature which is different for each drive, if you haven't made a complete disk image the drive signature isn't included in the image on restore. A complete disk does include the disk signature and needs to be ticked for recovery on restore, otherwise Windows will recalculate the disk ID and cause your node locked software to complain.

I think Colin has well covered your follow-up questions. I'll just clarify re. your question about the optical boot disk. The ATI2013 bootable Rescue Media, which can be made to CD-R or USB flash drive, is not unique to the system being backed up. So, a single ATI2013 bootable Rescue Media CD-R or USB flash drive will work for any of those PCs.

Thanks much, guys, I think I've got it. I'm about to set up an XP/Windows 8 dual-boot on my main work PC. Good to know I'll be able to back it all up to a single drive.