Upgrading from 2013 and Universal restore
Hello
When upgrading do I first uninstall 2013 or do I just install 2014 on top of it?
Furthermore I was told that the Plus Pack ability to restore to different hardware is now an integral part of 2014. When I read about the Plus Pack it said that I needed to install Windows AIK. Is that still neccessary with 2014 or is everything I need integrated in one package?
I will only use it to make complete disk and/or partition images so that in the event of a catastrophical hardware failure I can get my system (including installed programs) back the way it was even if I can't get hold of an identical motherboard, graphic card etc.
The features previously in the PlusPack are now part of ATI Premium. The features of Premium become available when you use a Premium serial number.
Ian
So my 2013 version will be autoupdated to 2014 Premium as soon as I use the serial without me having to do anything else at all?
When upgrading do I first uninstall 2013 or do I just install 2014 on top of it?
That works for most people. However, every system is different and sometimes that causes problems, so I prefer to uninstall and run Acronis Cleanup before installing a newer version.
So my 2013 version will be autoupdated to 2014 Premium as soon as I use the serial without me having to do anything else at all?
If you purchased the Premium edition, then installing it and entering its serial # would give you its features. If you upgraded just to the standard edition, then you wouldn't have those extra features that used to be part of Plus Pack.
WAIK or ADK still need to be downloaded separately.
Hm, there is no download link in the knowledgebase entry about the utility and a search only points to the knowledgebase. It is a bit unclear it says I need to disable certain functions in True Image 2013 before running the utility. I thought the idea was to uninstall by usual means (control panel) and use the utility as a last resort if that fails or run it after at "conventional" uninstall to get rid of old registry entries and such.
As I wrote, that works for most people. However, every system is different and sometimes that causes problems, so I prefer to uninstall and run Acronis Cleanup before installing a newer version. I also like to do a clean install of Windows on a new laptop, so as not to have to deal with all the bloatware.
But where can I find the link? A new install is not an option to me, however this is the plan (this is a desktop):
I have an image made by 2013 about six months ago and it is "clean" just my applications and the OS in this case W7 64-Bit Home Premium. I was going to restore my system with this. If that goes without problems I will then uninstall True Image 2013 the conventional way, use the cleanup utility after that and finally upgrade to 2014 and make a new image using the universal restore function.
I can't find where to download the utility itself. I can only find the kb entry with instructions on how to use it.
Which utility?
Acronis True Image Cleanup Utility for 2010-2014 is here: http://kb.acronis.com/content/34876
Ah, now I see it thanks. Colin B mentions that AIK is still needed, does the process of making an image with 2014:s universal restore take place entirely in True Images GUI or do I need special knowledge such as using the command line? I checked a guide on making a win PE boot disk and it seemed to require familiarity with the command line and batch files.
Fredrik,
The True Image media builder automatically runs all the commands needed. So long as it can find the WAIK installation, which it should, as the WAIK installer adds path entries into registry.
Note though, for those using ADK (W8 and 8.1) the media builder is unable at present to use the 8.1 ADK. I hope and assume this will be fixed in the next TI update.
Fredrik,
The True Image media builder automatically runs all the commands needed. So long as it can find the WAIK installation, which it should, as the WAIK installer adds path entries into registry.
Note though, for those using ADK (W8 and 8.1) the media builder is unable at present to use the 8.1 ADK. I hope and assume this will be fixed in the next TI update.
Thanks, I'll try later this week and see how it turns out.
Uhm this might sound stupid but...
I read in my 2013 manual about universal restore (if I had had plus pack) which I assume is esentially the same as in 2014 Premium. It states that I can put the new drivers on the removable media (is this the recovery disk?) It's not perfectly clear what they mean.
I guess what I am really asking is, do I need to already have access to the new motherboard drivers when I create the recovery disk? If so that kind of defeats the purpose since I wanted to be able to restore after a hypothetical hardware failure and go out and buy new hardware afterwards if it happens.
do I need to already have access to the new motherboard drivers when I create the recovery disk?
No, not until you do the Restore.
So, now I have installed 2014 Premium along with AIK and the Acronis Media Add-on (The addon said BartPE during install even though i was given the adress by the WinPE application).
The 2014 manual says, and I quote: "Install .NET Framework v.2.0 from this kit (NETFXx86 or NETFX64, depending on your hardware)"
When I look in Control Panel->programs I see .NET Framework 4.0. Do I need to revert to an older version then? (I might mention that after installing AIK i clicked on the NETFx64.exe located on the dvd, thinking it was an optional installer for extras and got an error)
I wasn't even aware that AIK could be 32-bit or 64-bit, how do I check which one got installed if possible? It wasn't mentioned during install. I just clicked [Windows AIK Setup] option in the box and the whole process was done automatically.
The True Image manual also says and I quote again: "Install Microsoft Core XML (MSXML) 6.0 Parser from this kit. I cannot find this in control panel->Programs so I guess it wasn't autoinstalled. The AIK install box gives the option to manially install it but says that it is only for 2003 server sp1. Should I install it even if I am running W7 Home Premium64?
Finally It says install AIK
I thought AIK installed the above mentioned software. was I wrong?
I burned AIK, popped in the disk and installed and it said all was fine.
Do I need to make the Recovery disk using the Acronis WinPE builder then in order to use universal restore?
I ask this because when making a Recovery disk the "usual way" from within 2014 it doesn't give a lot of options on which functions/components to install (only True Image itself and System Report). There is no mention of universal restore during creating the recovery disk. I might add that I made a disk this way and when I booted up from it and choose an older image made with 2013 there was the option to select universal restore.
Fredrik,
The WAIK installer should install everything that is needed. You should run Windows Update after installing to ensure you have the latest patches for your copy of WAIK.
You do need to make a new recovery disk once the Universal Restore has been activated (your install serial number does this automatically), so the Cd/USB stick contains the UR capability.
Fredrik,
The WAIK installer should install everything that is needed. You should run Windows Update after installing to ensure you have the latest patches for your copy of WAIK.
You do need to make a new recovery disk once the Universal Restore has been activated (your install serial number does this automatically), so the Cd/USB stick contains the UR capability.
Forgive me for being stupid but let me get this straight.
After possible update of WAIK, I only need to use [create bootable media] button from within True Image 2014 to get my disc with UR capability and there is no need to bother with WinPE at all? BartPE and WinPE is just if I want to customize and have more options on a bootable disk is that correct?
The manual kept going on about Bart and WinPE so I thought I needed to use it if I wanted to be able to restore to different hardware.
WinPe or Bart PE are not required in order to use Universal Restore.
If Linux has a problem booting your PC or you prefer as you say to customise features available to you (that is adding in extra utilities etc) then you would use WinPe (BartPe is for XP systems only).
It seems it's up to date (at least Windows update did not find anything) However here http://technet.microsoft.com/sv-SE/library/dd349350%28WS.10%29.aspx#Win… it says that there is a supplemental disk for upgrading to PE 3.1. does the Acronis builder use components from WinPE so I need it even if I don't actively use WinPE itself or can I skip it?
When I read the notes it seems largely pertaining to IT professionals that deploy a lot of images over a network in one go. It also says that an alternative to the supplemental disk is separate hotfixes for 3.0.
The only one that seems to be of remotely interest to a home user is the one that contains fixes that are related to 4k/512e drive support.
Running the MediaBuilder from within True Image produces a Linux based recovery environment, which only depends upon the drivers and kernel supplied by Acronis.
The Media Add-on uses whichever installation of Microsoft PE you have installed (apart from PE 5.0 for Windows 8.1, which does not seem supported as yet). Microsoft recommend that for whichever version of PE you have installed, any updates for that version should be installed.
So the answer to your question is, if you don't require the recovery environment to be Windows based, the Linux based standard recovery environment will be fine for you and you will still have the Universal Restore option.
Colin,
I've tested the Acronis WinPE ISO Builder in build 6614 with the ADK for Windows 8.1 (WinPE 5.0). It was able to make a WinPE 5.0 disk with no problem. This was tested successfully on both a Windows 7 and a Windows 8.1 system.
I've tested the Acronis WinPE ISO Builder in build 6614 with the ADK for Windows 8.1 (WinPE 5.0). It was able to make a WinPE 5.0 disk with no problem. This was tested successfully on both a Windows 7 and a Windows 8.1 system.
I'll try again, I couldn't get it to work. What I've done so far is to make a WinPE ISO and WIM file and I was goign to see if I could fiddle with that.
2014 just told me I need to have WinPe 4.0 installed if I wish to make a PE based recovery environment, and I had updated the media add-on.
Perhaps I need to remake the fwfiles and media folders as I used th eones left over from when I tried previously.
ABR11.5:37975 still gives a 0x180019 error, and that was to a new instance of the PE files.
Running the MediaBuilder from within True Image produces a Linux based recovery environment, which only depends upon the drivers and kernel supplied by Acronis.
The Media Add-on uses whichever installation of Microsoft PE you have installed (apart from PE 5.0 for Windows 8.1, which does not seem supported as yet). Microsoft recommend that for whichever version of PE you have installed, any updates for that version should be installed.
So the answer to your question is, if you don't require the recovery environment to be Windows based, the Linux based standard recovery environment will be fine for you and you will still have the Universal Restore option.
Thanks for clarifying. If I can have Universal Restore capability without WinPE, I'll just leave that alone for the time being. I have another question. Since I bought the family pack I was thinking of doing the same with my dads old XP computer.
The drive is 250 Gb with C:, D: (programs such as Office and video editing software), E: (games) and F: (just storage which is empty now)
p.106 in the manual says that Universal Restore might fail if the partition structure of the target disk is different but does this matter if I have a larger target disk? Let's say that I buy a new 1 Tb disk and a new motherboard. I make a backup of the old one and then a recovery. Once this is done can't I simply go into windows disk management, delete the F: partition and make a new F: partition consisting of all the unallocated space on the new disk?