Clean re-install TI2014 ?

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I upgraded to T2014 and little bit later bought a new 3 TB backup drive. I had simple backup scenario with two disk backups: for my C (Windows) partition scheduled once a month and other backup for D (Data) partition scheduled daily. These has been worked fine before (with TI2013). There is no indications that something has been went wrong in these upgrades, but now I'm in situation where:
1) Settings of this two backups have been somehow corrupted or mixed. When I run backup for my C-drive, the other backup for D-drive goes to "not backed up yet" -state and vice versa.
2) D-drive backup in the backup list shows incorrect number of backup versions.
3) When running C-drive backup, its automatic cleanup cleaned backups of the other (D-drive backup) !! I lost 3 weeks backup versions.
4) Trying to delete C-drive backup cause an endless hang. Now I have unscheduled C-drive backup and run only D-drive backup.

I'm getting enough of Acronis (these troubles are not the only one I have been fighting during last years).

Now, the last thing I'm considering to try is to make a clean re-install of TI2014. How this should be done?
- how the current installation should removed totally?
- have I re-activate TI2014 and how this is to be done ? (product has been activated and registered when first time installed and computer remains the same)
- does anyone have an idea would this re-installation help or is there another solutions?

Very near to change another backup software. I just don't trust Acronis anymore. And what you do with a backup software you can't trust?

Tue, 03/04/2014 - 12:13
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Markku,

Are you still running XP Pro? If yes, are you having issues with the 3T disk? Is the Data partition on its own separate disk or is it part of the same disk as C.

Wow! Do you have some problems. I have not seen these type errors before.

My first suggestion is before you take any action. Create a new full backup of both partitions so you have a current backups if the planned new install causes you any issues.

Yes, if I were you, I would
1 .Uninstall 2014.
2. Run the TI Cleanup utility (Signature link 4 below)
3. If you normally use registry cleaners or the like, I would run that as well.
4. Re-install 2014

Your old tasks are useless at this point. Any of the mixed up backups to the wrong path are also useless.

Start over with new backup tasks for each of your two backups. Either or both can be scheduled or non-scheduled.
When creating the new tasks, do have your target disk attached. Point the new tasks to their own new folder.

I don't know whether you are performing full only; or full + incremental; or full + differential.
Review signature link 2 below. Note the very first illustration which is to create a "disk mode" backup. Even though you may have only C (if using XP), it is still to your benefit to click the "Switch to disk mode", and include the Data partition if it is part of the same disk as C.

Then continue to review the illustrations and pay particular attention to illustrations 11-Full or 11-Inc or 11-Dif.
If you set up your tasks using Automatic cleanup as per these illustrations, then the system will do its own deletion of old backups as they occur. The illustrations of 6 INC/DIF and 4 Full can be changed based on your storage needs.
The key to this working correctly is to enable option "store no more than X recent versions" which controls how many backups are stored before the automatic deletion occurs. Once the X quantity of chains is met, your backups should simply rotate with each new full , the old chain will auto delete.

Once you have the 2014 reinstalled, the program should prompt you about activation and just follow the prompts. You will need to de-activate the prior and activate the new install.

The rules I practice for myself and recommend is that NO EDITS to the backup task except maybe for schedule changes and this can be done from the main menu listing without any use of "Edit Settings" option.
Also, each task has its own storage folder so there is no mixing of backup files!

As you go forward with new backups, manual deletion of backups should not be needed but if they are, do the deletion from within the program via the Acronis Backup Explorer (TimeSlice) screen.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 00:52
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Thanks for good information and recommendations !

I'm running Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit with SP1, so problems are not conserning to XP. And I'm performing full + incremental backups for partition D and just full for partition C.
Your tip to switch disk mode backup was quite new to me - my both partitions are on the same disk. I have not been realize that it will be different from partition backup.
I have same opinion about "no edits" practice, because editing backup tasks start this messy I have now...
I try to re-install TI the way you described. See what happens...

Thanks,
MT

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:09
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This is one example below of how to set the full plus incrmentals. Adjust the 6 /4 to fit your storage needs.

Figure 11-Inc: Example of custom/incremental backup method settings
If using incremental type backups (which is full + X Inc), the 11-Inc is my recommended method. Change the 6 or 4 to fit your available storage.
These automatic cleanup settings will provide for automatic deletion of the oldest backups after the "Store no more than X number of chains" quota has been reached.
In this example, deletion of oldest backup will occur immediately following creation of backup #29.

Allow space for 1 more full backup in addition to "Store no more than X number of chains" as the program will NOT delete the oldest full until its replacement has been successfully created.

In this example, one chain or one recent version chain =1 full plus 6 inc or 7 files per chain.
If keeping 4 recent version chains (4 chains of 7 each) retention would be 28 files. Deletion of oldest chain will occur after backup 29 (full).

Also understand the limitations/risk factor of incremental backups. If one inc backups gets corrupt or accidentally deleted, all newer inc are worthless so avoid excessive number of incremental backups. Always maintain a full backup set which are current This explains why keeping a reasonable number of x "recent version chains" can be very important. Keeping a high number of incremental is a high risk factor to your backup data and should be avoided.
For a better understanding of the differences between Inc and Dif as it relates to the safety factor, review this link.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/40810

When restoring an Incremental backup, select the specific Inc file to be restored and all preceding Incremental files plus the full backup base must be present and will be restored (multiple files required).

This is an example of how to backup using full only backups.

Figure 11-Full: Example of custom/full backup method settingsIf using Full backups only, this is a recommended method. These automatic cleanup settings will provide for automatic deletion of the oldest backups after the "Store no more than X number of chains" quota has been reached.
In this example, deletion of oldest backup will occur immediately following creation of backup #5.

Allow space for 1 more full backup in addition to "Store no more than X number of chains" as the program will NOT delete the oldest full until its replacement has been successfully created.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 16:29
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