To upgrade or not? TI 2015 product queries

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Hello,
I was looking to upgrade from ATI 11, but having read some of the reviews on this forum on the current 2015 version I am really put off upgrading.  What I like about the version that I have is that I can bypass the OS by booting from CD and make/restore a partition/whole disk.  I don't ever remember installing the windows TI software.  I don't want a backup tool running in windows at all, just an imager that I can boot straight into.  As far as I know, the version I have wasn't licence restricted to a particular number of machines.  It didn't require activation.

I can't use the version that I have anymore because I am trying to image a new macbook pro and the keyboard/pad are not recognised/no driver support.  Likewise with Ghost etc.  This machine will eventually have Windows and perhaps Linux on as well.

Can someone clarify how the activation on the newer versions works, if I am imaging/restoring an offline machine, how can TI be activated and tied to 1 or 3 machines?  I don't need cloud storage for my images.

I see that there are PC, Mac & PC+Mac versions. 

So my questions are, will the current version (or v2014 if I can find it) do what I want - boot straight from a cd/usb without me having to install software first?  If so, how are the activation/machine licences handled?  Can PC TI natively image HFS+, or would it have to be done in raw/sector mode?  If it can't handle it natively would I be restricted to what I can image e.g. Whole disk as opposed to individual partitions?

What does the 'unlimited' in those versions refer to?

What tools other than TI and Clonezilla would people recommend?

I have read on this forum about a 30 day money back trial. How does that work?

Many thanks.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:25
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CT wrote:
Can someone clarify how the activation on the newer versions works, if I am imaging/restoring an offline machine, how can TI be activated and tied to 1 or 3 machines?  I don't need cloud storage for my images.

The Windows/OS version of the software does the activation. The fully activation of your license gives you access to the download area of Acronis.com where you can download the fully operational recovery medium image, and you can produce one directly with the local software.

So my questions are, will the current version (or v2014 if I can find it) do what I want - boot straight from a cd/usb without me having to install software first?

Yes

 If so, how are the activation/machine licences handled?  

See above. The trial version of the recovery medium is limited in functionality.

Can PC TI natively image HFS+, or would it have to be done in raw/sector mode?

I will have to be done in sector by sector mode since it won't be able to read the information of the file system and only backup useful sectors.

 If it can't handle it natively would I be restricted to what I can image e.g. Whole disk as opposed to individual partitions?

I don't understand the question

What does the 'unlimited' in those versions refer to?

Unlimited storage on Acronis Cloud

What tools other than TI and Clonezilla would people recommend?

Many users here report good success on PCs with Macrium Reflect.

I have read on this forum about a 30 day money back trial. How does that work?

Take it literally. You can use the trial version for 30days. Upon purchase, you will have 30days to get your money back. After 30 days, you won't have support any longer.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 20:14
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In addition,
if your register your 64 character serial number into your Aconis web account, then you will be able to download the bootable media file which will enable you to create a TI Recovery CD without any version of the program being installed. See my signature link 9 below. Illustration 7 shows the bootable media file.

A request on the forurm (rather than direct to Acronis support) will not suffice.
A request for a refund must be made prior to 30 days and must be made via Acronis support.

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 00:50
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Thank you both for replying.

"Can PC TI natively image HFS+, or would it have to be done in raw/sector mode?  If it can't handle it natively would I be restricted to what I can image e.g. Whole disk as opposed to individual partitions?"

I am assuming that in the PC version there is support for the common PC/Windows fs types (fat family, ntfs etc) and in the Mac version support for common mac fs such as hfs+.  So a fs aware image rather than a raw/sector by sector image can be done.  Is this true, are there 3 different bootable image/restore products PC, Mac & PC+Mac, or is the boot version 'universal' with only the desktop application being the difference between the 3 versions?

In order to sucessfully create/restore a multiboot/os whole drive or individual partitions where there are mixed fs types (e.g. hfs+ & ext3/4 & ntfs & exfat) in a non sector by sector/raw format does one need the PC+Mac version or do the different versions only refer to the desktop applications?

There are two potential obstacles as I see it, 1) the keyboard/trackpad of the macbook need to be supported (the problem with my older version of ATI and various other tools I have tried - once I have booted into the imager/restorer there is no response from keyboard/pad at all), 2) the mixed filesystem that I am proposing.  I don't really want to buy all three products and then claim money back on 2 of them.

If I have understood correctly the 1/3 licences refers to the desktop application. So if I buy a 1 user licence I can image/restore, using the bootable software, as many PCs/Macs as I like, just so long as I don't install the desktop application on more than one machine.

I have been trying to find out info on the above from the Acronis website, but my browser is crashing everytime within a few seconds of page load, so thanks again for your replies.

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 18:07
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CT wrote:

If I have understood correctly the 1/3 licences refers to the desktop application. So if I buy a 1 user licence I can image/restore, using the bootable software, as many PCs/Macs as I like, just so long as I don't install the desktop application on more than one machine.

You misunderstood. The license applies equally to the desktop and the recovery CD. When you buy Acronis, you get to use it on one PC/Mac. whether you use the desktop software or the recovery medium software. The management of the licenses is supported by software on the desktop, but not on the recovery CD. The difference in license management software implementation between the desktop and the recovery medium doesn't mean the license is different.

Mon, 12/29/2014 - 19:31
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Does this then mean that if I download the recovery/imager cd/usb from my acronis account and then try and use it on an offline machine that doesn't have the desktop application installed I won't be able to image/restore (because no connection for licence management)? I ask because you mention licence management software implementation in the recovery medium as well as the desktop. In my ATI 11 imager/recovery cd there is nowhere to enter a licence key and I haven't used the desktop application for years.

Anybody have any ideas about my filesystem support in my last post?

Thank you.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 22:22