Beginner Questions About What parts of my disk to image and others

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Hi all,

I started hearing some telltale noises from my 750 GB Seagate Barracuda HDD so I picked up ATI Home 2010. I bought an identical HDD, but I'm a bit stumped on what to do next. I want to simply image my current drive and apply it to the new drive. I have the following questions that I can't seem to find answers to in the user guide:

1. Do I need to format the new drive before I can apply an image to it?

2. Do I need to install windows on the new drive before I can apply an image to it?

3. When I installed Windows 7 on my drive, it seems to have created two partitions. (See image below)  It seems that Windows created a "system reserved" partition as well as the standard active primary partition which it calls C:\. If I just format the new drive before applying an image, I won't be creating a system reserved partition, which leads me to think that if I want to apply the image most accurately, I should install windows first to generate the necessary partitions (named correctly as well) to later apply the image. How much does this formatting play into applying the image? What should I do here? (You can see the unallocated space of the new unformatted drive)

4. I have about 100 GB of data and applications (including the OS) that I backed up as a .tib file. The .tib file is about 45 GB. Is it compressed? Will it rebuild to the complete drive? Does that .tib only include the "C" partition?

5. To back up bit for bit I need an extra 750 BG of space, right? I don't think I want to do that.

As you can see I have several questions. I appreciate anything you can clarify for me.

Thanks.

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Sat, 03/27/2010 - 17:36
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Daniel,
I know you're in a rush but take the time to read both parts of item 7A inside my index. These links illustrates the procedure you need to use to create your backup and to restore that backup. Also read item 2A & 2B of my index found by clicking on my signature link below or also found as a sticky on the main 2010 forum.

To answer your specific questions.
1. No. When restoring an archive, best results are obtained if the target drive is blank or unallocated.
2. No. When you apply an image you are restoring an image and this restoration wipes away any data on the drive prior to the restore. So Windows would just get wiped away by the restore.
3. See item 2.
4. For your best chance of a complete recovery, you need to perform a disk option backup which is illustrated in my guide plus at this link.
Backup link: http://forum.acronis.com/sites/default/files/forum/2010/01/7523/backup_…

By checking the disk option, this will cause your system recovery and your drive C to be included in your backup. You want everything on your disk to be included (checked) --not just C partition.
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4b, When restoring, your selection will be the same as illustrated below.
Restore link: http://forum.acronis.com/sites/default/files/forum/2010/01/7523/restore…

You want to checkmark the disk option so both your system Drive C plus your Recovery partition are both checkmarked.

5. After the restoration of your backup, you will want to perform check your new disk for disk errors just in case the backup archive included any from the old drive.

Since you need to create a new backup anyway to include your system recovery partition, I suggest you do create your new backup when booted from the TI Recovery CD.
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So here are my recommended set of procedures
1. Create a backup to include all your partitions. The size of the backup archive will be about 60-65% of your used space and it will have normal compression. I assumed you have your backups stored on an external drive or network, etc.
2. Looking at your attachment, it appears you are on a desktop and both drives are installed internally.
If true, remove the data cable from the old drive since it is not being used as part of the restore.
3. Boot from the TI Rescue CD and perform you Disk option restore as illustrated by the Restore Link. In other words you want both partitions checked as you are restoring to the same size disk as your original.
4. Shutdown and reboot making sure the only drive attached is the new replacement disk.
5. If your replacement disk is not on the connector as the old, you may need to point your BIOS to the correct disk even though it is the only disk attached.
6. This should boot without problems but if you do have problem booting, you may need your Windows 7 install CD for a repair.
7. After you have booted successfully a couple times, you are re-attach your data cable and use it as a data drive temporarily and it will have different drive letters.

ps: Have you checked the Seagate site for updated firmware. I have a similar drive and your size is listed.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 00:03
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Wow. It seems I need to get to work.

Grover, thanks very much for your excellent and detailed reply. I'll start reading tonight.

RE: your p.s. - Are you suggesting updated firmaware might be helpful to my current HDD, or are you saying I should update the firmware before (or after) the image restore to the new drive?

Thanks again.

Dan

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 01:37
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The disk is an issue within itself. It it qualifies for a firmware update (as listed at the Seagate site), then I would apply the update. It may or may not help your problem with the disk. I would certainly replace it but you may get some additional life from it as a data disk, etc. Of course, if you can return it under warranty, then return it.

If your new replacement qualifies for an update, I would do it first before restoring your archive.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 02:20
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