Too many backups in list
I've had Acronis for many years and have 4 computers backed up. I only do full backups of the C drive, never any scheduling. I have hundreds of backups in the list when I open 2015. Removing them one at a time is sooooo slow even on a very fast Win 8.1 computer. I wish on install, it didn’t add them at all.
Yesterday 2015 was running slower than usual, so I’ve found if I reinstall it goes back to normal. So I 1st chose repair, that didn't work, so I chose uninstall and then reinstall. When prompted to start the app, it said I had to reboot first (first time it required a reboot). When I rebooted and opened 2015. The window was different. There were no backups in the list and the selection on the left was on "Entire PC".
The only way I could have a backup in the list was to add it manually, which I like very much. I prefer to put only the backups I want in the list. In fact I wouldn't mind if I didn't even have a list. Unfortunately I had to revert to another earlier backup so I lost this better 2015 app with no lists.
How can I get rid of this huge list? Do I need to reinstall and remove all the HD’s that have TIB files? Or is there a registry tweak to remove the list? Or is there a special way in reinstalling and installing that prevents this from happening like I stumbled upon the other day? I wonder if this huge list is making 2015 run slow at times.
Recently I’ve disabled in startup acronis true image monitor, acronis scheduler helper, acronis tib mounter monitor. In Services I have Acronis Nonstop Backup Service disabled and Acronis Scheduler2 Service enabled and Acronis Sync enabled. Don’t I have to have those last 2 services enabled to open 2015 save a full backup or restore a backup? I never use scheduler or auto backups.
So given the very simple way I’m using 2015 how can I get rid of the huge backup list?
Very good suggestions!
I do actually prefer the CD version, but the problem is is many times I’m using remote desktop to either backup or restore. So I have to be booted into Windows to do that. The reason I have so many tasks is that I’ve created many backups to my 4 computers and Acronis 2015 gathered up all of those old backups from Acronis 2009 and 2011 and put them in the backup task window. This is why I wonder if I should unplug some of my HDs while installing 2015.
Ok I tried your method of not creating a new task and you’re so right. It’s so easy, and maybe ease is a good trade off from not being able to name the files the way I want. So my 2nd backup added this to the end of my name - full_b2_s1_v1. I see that b1 was changed to b2. So does it keep following that convention at the 10th backup calling it full_b10_s1_v1? If so I think I can live with that. So what happens when I want to restore?
My backup name that I chose is
Z97 PLAT #2 H
so 2015 renamed it this: Z97 PLAT #2 H_full_b1_s1_v1.tib
my 2nd backup is named this: Z97 PLAT #2 H_full_b2_s1_v1.tib
In my backup list I see this: Z97 PLAT #2 H But when I choose “recover Disks” It doesn’t list the 2 backups that I made, not allowing me to choose either one of them. It appears to me that it will restore the last one I made. What am I missing here?
There’s only 1 script file inside the scripts folder and it doesn’t list the huge list of tasks only the last 2 that I did today. So do you think I can use the Acronis Scheduler Manager to delete all SCHEDULED Tasks using 2015? I tried it and it didn’t work. Which folder should I put it in? If I can get all those tasks gone, I’ll just use 1 task, maybe Acronis won’t be so slow after that.
Do you think I should use the TI Cleanup utility? I’m not sure what TI residue is, but maybe that’s bogging things up.
I appreciate all your great ideas.
Gary,
The two new files should be listed within the task which created them for recovery selection.
I would try the cleanup utility and see if that helps with to offer a cleaner installation.
I thought the searching for old backups each startup had been discarded so your comments are surprising about so many listings.
This link may help shed some light about 2015.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/65498
I hope searching for old backups each startup had been discarded with the 2015 version, otherwise I'll never get rid of them. I know when I first installed 2015 I suppose that it scanned all of my HD's and created this huge list of Acronis 2009 and 2011 images. I think this is where the problem originated. Since none of these images show up in the script you pointed out to me, trying to use that route to fix the problem seems futile.
Is the cleanup utilty just for removing all Acronis from the computer so I can do a clean install? Or is it something that I should use with my current install to make it work better?
It seems like there should be some file that has that huge list in it or maybe in the registry or both. That would lbe an easy tweak.
The TI cleanlup utility (my signature link 4 below) will both uninstall ALL Acronis produces, plus remove some entries from your registry.
Following the cleanup, you will need to re-install the program again and create all new tasks.
I do suggest that you run the scheduler as mentioned above and use the Task Zap command just to see if that helps.
After you have ran the cleanup and before you do a new install, I would open RegEdit and do a search of all sections for "Acronis" just to make sudre you have a clean slate.
I uninstalled 2015 then ran TI cleanlup utility. I did everything except I didn't do the registry edits. I reinstalled and unfortunately all the same old 2009 and 2011 backups again showed up in the list. Do you think I should try this again and do the registry changes also? And also search for acronis in the registry like you suggested?
After installation I checked to see if there was a script, but there ins't one at all. I guess the script only gets created when I create a backup.
I did run the scheduler yesterday and used the Task Zap command and I think it did work, because I wasn't able to see the 2 backups I created that I previously saw on the scrpit, they were inded zapped. After running task zap, it did work on the script. Yet the huge list of backups appears to have nothing to do with the script.
thanks,
Gerry,
At this point, I don't know what I can do to help you, other than to suggest you install the trial version of 2016 and see if that version helps.
I have the 2016 most current verson installed and I have don't have that problem and I have disks attached with lots of tib backup files stored.
If you decide to go try the 2016 trial, I would run the cleanup utility again before installing the trial.
later update: I now have the same problem in 2016 of old backups being added (not requested by user) by the program to the tasks menu.
So any fix I have suggesed should be ignored.
Gerry,
Update: Usiing 2016, I now have the same problem as you. I avoided it for months without the problem but had to traverse my directory tree somewhat on the storage folder and tht is when all the backups got added to the TI main menu.
I tried adding the registry exclusion but that did not solve the issue. Settings used were:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\ACRONIS\TRUEIMAGEHOME\SETTINGS
ScanComputerAtStartup
Dword value as 0x00000000 (0)
I'll post back if I can find a solution. For now, it appears that any visit to your storage folder directory tree will trigger the addition to the task listings.
Gerry,
Update: Usiing 2016, I now have the same problem as you. I avoided it for months without the problem but had to traverse my directory tree somewhat on the storage folder and tht is when all the backups got added to the TI main menu.
I tried adding the registry exclusion but that did not solve the issue. Settings used were:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\ACRONIS\TRUEIMAGEHOME\SETTINGS
ScanComputerAtStartup
Dword value as 0x00000000 (0)
I'll post back if I can find a solution. For now, it appears that any visit to your storage folder directory tree will trigger the addition to the task listings.
My main computer in my network has about 6T of HD space, so I have old backups spread all over. This is why I have such a huge list. And most of the backups have nothing to do with 2015 or my main computer and are totally useless in the list, just bogging things down.
I got 2015 in June and was actually appalled that I can't even contact tech support about this issue that I've had since day one. If I would have known that tech support only lasts a few months I would have been more on this issue. So if you're on tech support with 2016, maybe you can have some help solving this issue. I'm sure they are countless others out there with the same problem, I hope you can be our knight in shining amour and help us all.
I wonder if you can do a registry search for one of the backups in your list to determine where that list is. Although it seems we’d also need a registry tweak to tell it to exclude certain locations from scanning. Otherwise we’ll have to keep removing the list. It would be nice to have a list of all the registry tweaks available that you could search and find what we need.
When I did the clean install the other day and cleaned the registry the list showed up as soon as I opened it the first time. Since I never use scheduler or auto backups, recently I’ve disabled in startup acronis true image monitor, acronis scheduler helper, acronis tib mounter monitor. In Services I have Acronis Nonstop Backup Service Acronis Sync disabled and Acronis Scheduler2 Service enabled.
Maybe you shduol post this problem in the 2016 forum, maybe there are more power users or tech support people hanging around there that can help.
Thanks for all your very good advice. Good luck in solving this.
One other thing I was considering doing was trying to figure out hwo to hide some of those directories from Acronis. I'm not sure if that would work.
I was just going to make that recommendation.
I hide the folders from Acronis by using another Windows account, creating the folder I want to hide and selecting "Do not share". That way, I can keep all my backups on one drive, Acronis doesn't see the one's I don't want them to see.
Also, when booting from rescue media, Acronis sees them all.
A kludge work around, but it does work.
I was just going to make that recommendation.
I hide the folders from Acronis by using another Windows account, creating the folder I want to hide and selecting "Do not share". That way, I can keep all my backups on one drive, Acronis doesn't see the one's I don't want them to see.
Also, when booting from rescue media, Acronis sees them all.
A kludge work around, but it does work.
I always keep the Windows setting "hide protected system files" unchecked. I want to see all the files on my computer. So considering this, are you saying that I can hide the folders with the backups and I can always see them, but Acronis can't see them because they're hidden?
I hope it's that easy. What I don't' want to do is every time I want to use Acronis, I don't' want to log off and log back on as a different user. I'd rather suffer with the huge list than have to do that, simply because many times I use Acronis while I'm on another computer using remote desktop.
What's the down side of using "Do not share"? Can I not access it when I may want to?
You would only need to log onto the other account to hide the folder(s) that you don't want ATI to see.
Log onto the other account... create a top level folder... Move all of the old backup folders to under the top level folder. On the top level folder do a share with nobody. See screen grab below.
Log back into the account where you run ATI.
If you try to access the backup folder while logged into your ATI account, you will get a popup warning...see nopermission screen grab below. If you hit the continue button to then look at the files, ATI will also then see all of the backups. You would then need to log back into the other account and redo the share with nobody.
As I said my earlier post... a kludge but it works.
Let me know if this works for you.
Regards,
FtrPilot
I see what you mean about the kludge. Thanks for an alternative, but it's too much of a kludge for me to use. Maybe soemone will come up with a better solution that you can use also. Have a great day, man,