CLONE HDD-2-SSD vs RESTORE HDD BACKUP in SSD

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see some shots attached
esc enter bios after F9 boot menu
but I can Not boot in windows ... is any setting or have to insert acronis bootable media... to do boot in windiows 10 ???
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Leonidas, have you tried using either taking the top 'Continue Startup (Exit)' option on the Start menu, or else taking the top EFI Boot Sources > 'Windows Boot Manager' option on the F9 Boot menu?
Early in this topic you posted the output from msinfo32 which showed that your Windows 10 OS used a BIOS mode of UEFI, so the above options should be correct to start Windows.
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my system do Not start
seems UEFI not boots or if press F11 to load acronis... acronis loaded
what to choose now
??
see and prior shots
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taking the top 'Continue Startup (Exit)'
trying this
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now boots only if acronis bootable on dvd
otherwise if eject
a black screen appears and only one LEd power lights the other of hdd no lights
try recover from bootable media the hdd to ssd
and boot with ssd????? but hdd problem now ,, well ?
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now boots only if acronis bootable on dvd
Are you able to boot to the Windows 10 desktop after booting with with Acronis DVD is present?
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I think only in command line
Not sure
Try bootable media
Connect
ext hdd usb3 // backup
Ssd usb3
And recover backup to ssd from bootable media?
Also try if enter windows 10 from bootable. ..?
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You can retry the recovery to the SSD from your backup drive using the bootable media but doubt that you would get into Windows 10 from the bootable media.
The command line (x:\windows\system32> ) looks to be either from the Acronis Rescue Media.
When you did the earlier recovery to the SSD did ATI request that the system had to be restarted to continue the recovery?
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I think rescue media used ... and refer now...
bootable media is not the same as rescue media???? I have and bootable media try these????
taking the top 'Continue Startup (Exit)'
>>> go
Starting with uefi loader (v....
Press F11 for Acronis Startup Recovery....
go>>
MBR Error 1
Press any key boot from floppy...
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Bootable media and Rescue media are the same thing.
If you are able to boot into the Acronis Startup Recovery Manager (ASRM - F11 prompt) and have your backup drive connected, then I would suggest restoring just the MBR & Track 0 data from your last backup image to your HDD, to see if that will resolve the boot issue with the HDD.
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restoring just the MBR & Track 0 data from your last backup image to your HDD
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But if is GPT the MBR needed ?
also tried boot in Not UEFI in the past 1 hour but failed... because Not booting UEFI...
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doubt that you would get into Windows 10 from the bootable media.
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If enter Acronis bootable media... and having USB 3 SSD & ext HDD (with backup in it] ... can i try recover backup lastest to SSD ... without enter Windows... ???
After connect SSD [sata] to see if boots up?
Otherwise try this
restoring just the MBR & Track 0 data from your last backup image to your HDD
well
???
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When in the Acronis Rescue application and looking at your backup image, what options do you see for the items available for recovery?
If you only see the EFI partition plus your C: & T: partitions, then try restoring just the EFI partition back to the HDD.
The alternative approach here will need a copy of the Windows 10 installation media and then to try running a Startup Repair or to Repair Windows from that media.
See the following webpages dealing with repairing a UEFI / GPT Boot issues.
Webpage: How to Repair EFI Bootloader on a GPT HDD in Windows 7/8/8.1/10?
Webpage: Fix UEFI Boot: Fix for Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10
Webpage: Fix UEFI Boot in Windows 10/8/7
If you do not have a copy of the Windows 10 installation media, then you can download this from webpage: Windows 10 Download - where you should use the second option to Create Windows 10 installation media by downloading the Media Creation tool.
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So you mean efi partition needed recovered ?
And if do this is for the better health of hdd... not worse?
What about the option recovery of backup in ext hdd to ssd and try sata boot from ssd... when do this?
I have recovery dvd windows 10 but i think it's about from 1803...
So now boot from bootable rescue media after insert backup ext hdd, ... and recover efi...
After connect ssd and recover to ssd..?
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Leonidas, my focus here has been to try to help you get back to a working HDD. I do not know why you are not able to boot from the HDD when you were just recovering your backup to the new SSD drive. The HDD should not have been 'touched' by this process unless ATI required a restart when doing the recovery, which then would have created a temporary boot environment from which to boot and perform the actions. This is one reason why doing OS Recovery (to the original drive) is not recommended from within Windows!
The suggestion to recover just the EFI partition to your HDD is to try to resolve this new boot issue.
If you prefer to try to get the new SSD working instead of the HDD, then booting from the Recovery media in UEFI mode, with both the external backup drive and the SSD drive connected then restoring the backup to the SSD again is one option you can try.
A variation on this option would be to disconnect your HDD, connect the SSD to the cables used by the HDD so that the SSD is now the internal drive, then boot from the Recovery media with your external backup drive connected, and then restore your backup to the internal SSD drive. This means that no further changes can occur to the HDD during this process.
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Track 0 and the EFI System Partition - if recovering to the original non-booting HDD.
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I got success recoverred
But again not boot I think
Now I see on screen
Some text
DHCP ......../
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Try not yesterday backup recover but 06 Nov 2018... the pre-latest
...?
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Starting uefi loader....
Option F11 acronis
After
Intel boot agent
Client mac addr... ...guid...
DHCP.........../
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Please review 3 last posts
What to do now? ?? What recommended. .. I think acronis block boot process
How recover from rescue media the ext hdd backup ... Not to pc's hdd but to ssd usb3 ...?
After connect sata
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Leonidas, to recover from the rescue media to your new SSD connected via SATA, then you need to boot from the rescue media in UEFI mode, with your external backup drive connected.
After that, follow the steps shown in the attached PDF document. This was written when using ATI 2017 and doing a recovery for a MBR drive, but the steps remain the same when using ATI 2018 or 2019, and for recovering a GPT drive.
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I connected ssd and inserted rescue media cdrom
Now shows window logo with
Attempting Repairs
Text
I think booted from ssd in windows but as I say recovery has in the last min error
Now await attempting repair
May boot in windows on ssd fixed with await
Without needed again recovery from ext hdd to ssd?
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I got message can Not repair see attachment ... what to do... Keyboard and mouse now Not work.... how go advanced or shutdown... ???
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Now,...I am trying restore backup ext hdd usb3 to ssd sata
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I completed RECOVERY TO SSD from USB3 EXT HDD backup success...!!!
But the boot problem is the same
seems the Acronis interfere with boot process... how disable this???
see shots attached by series... Now only SSD present
No usb ext hdd ... No CDROM rescue media
well how boot in windows
I think must disable Acronis at boot, how???
well ??
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Track 0 missing from ssd bootable's partitions the others are like hdd partitions
Well
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Are you suggest do a Windows Repair
With Windows 10 1809 DVD created today with windows media tool
... or... ?
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Partition 2
is T:/
or
C:/
see shots... any problem???
what to do now SSD and old HDD seems same problem - normal boot appear 3rd picture attached and then go to 4th picture attached...
Are you suggest do a Windows Repair
With Windows 10 1809 DVD created today with windows media tool
... or... ?
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Leonidas, your boot menu from the SSD does not show an option for the 'Windows Boot Manager' which is what you need for a valid UEFI boot into Windows. Your boot menu from the HDD did show this option, so you may need to go into the BIOS settings and check whether this option is available to be selected from the new SSD.
It would also be worth clicking on the > next to your new SSD in the EFI Boot Sources to see if this expands to give other options?
If this doesn't help, then boot from your Windows 10 1809 DVD and take the repair option.
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I make it booted from ssd windows 10 pro
I inserted DVD windows 10
asked
reinstall - delete all
or
upgrade
chosen upgrade and immediately upgrade and entered quickly in windows 10 from SSD
What to do now in windows 10....???
I make a restore point
also backup file to usb stick
/windows/system32/boot/winload.efi that appeared show error in it // backup all /boot/ folder
What to do now in windows 10....??? retry if all ok without usb stick/dvd and if ok
interchange hdd with ssd since now ssd is sata but I have Not yet fit it in... ???
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Leonidas, not sure what exactly you have done here? If you have booted from the Windows 10 Install DVD and taken the Upgrade option, this would normally do a clean install of Windows - to Upgrade an existing Windows installation, this should normally be done from the Windows desktop.
If you have the SSD booting to the Windows desktop and all looks good, then installing the SSD in your computer case in place of the HDD would be the next step.
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I will create recovery usb stick on the ssd system
After turn off system and i will
Remove cables
And install ssd using hdd to ssd adapter
I will make a last post if all ok
Thanks for the advise
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I connected/replaced HDD with SSD
all ok
thanks for all your advise
keep great tools great work !
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Leonidas, that is good to hear. Please ensure you make a new full disk backup of your new working SSD and Windows 10 OS in case of any problems in the future.
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One last thing
Because I excluded some virtual machine files etc files from backup that hence exist only in the old hdd
In case want connect this old hdd with usb stand adapter
I should await boot from SSD normally and after connect this usb hdd
NEVER SHOULD BOOT FROM SSD WITH USB OLD bootable HDD CONNECTED
CORRECT
?
So boot first after connect and COPY FILES...
Correct
?
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Yes, doing that should be fine and is the best way of avoiding any disk signature clash. Once you have all the data copied from the HDD, then you could re-format it and use it as you wish as a spare or a data drive.
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In case I wanted insert this SATA HDD old [WITHOUT DELETE DATA] in another new desktop PC new 2018 with PCIe NVM x4 on the motherboard that has/BOOTs Windows 10 Pro
AGAIN MAY HAVE CONFLICTING PROBLEMS???? WHAT TO DELETE FROM THIS OLD HDD ?
in other words if NOT the same PC may also appear conflicts if the other PC is also Windows 10 ????
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There would be no conflicts if moving the HDD to a different computer - the conflict would only be a risk if the HDD and SSD were both in the same system and have the same disk signature.
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Thank you Steve for your patience and detail. I searched high and low for a solution to what was supposed to be an easy clone and replace for a Toshiba Laptop. You MVP Tools are perfect step by step descriptions that are clear and easy to understand. Finally having a bootable USB media to facilitate the clone it worked on the first try with no issues. Now the machine is lighting fast by comparison. Thank you!!
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Mark, welcome to these public User Forums.
Thank you for your feedback and always good to hear of success in using the tools!
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Hi again,
A friend of me
having full SSD 100GB and wanted to cloned to SSD 480GB
but has No Acronis TI 2018 installed - and i think has No space available to install it...
Can give him my Acronis bootable media CD/DVD to make the clone WITH-OUT Having Acronis TI2018 in his PC?
Also
recommended backup disk first [POWER CUT MAY MAKE BOTH SSDs PROBLEM]?
needed check source SSD for errors first?
To create Acronis bootable media in my HP PC... [his PC is also HP with USB 3.0 slots]
required do Rescue Media Builder > ADVANCED
or > SIMPLE is about the same?
If go ADVANCED - I think needed download WADK is easy this? - also a CDR is enough or needed DVD-R ?
Are you strictly recommend Rescue Media Builder > ADVANCED... if used the media for cloning A different PC???
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Rather recreate bootable rescue media > ADVANCED [ I afraid WADK download procedure]
can create Acronis Universal Restore media
for CLONING a differ PC From its SSD to a usb3/sata SSD bigger????
I think this is easier... Or better do the bootable rescue media > ADVANCED ?
RATHER ALL THIS TROUBLE CAN GO IN MY ACCOUNT
https://account.acronis.com/#/products
AND DOWNLOAD BOOTABLE MEDIA ???? THIS IS FOR ANY PC ????
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Can give him my Acronis bootable media CD/DVD to make the clone WITH-OUT Having Acronis TI2018 in his PC?
Strictly speaking your Acronis software / media is licensed only to you for use on the number of systems that you have purchased the license for. It is not licensed for use on a friend's PC.
Acronis Universal Restore is not needed for cloning drives that will be used in the same computer - this is intended to help in migrating to new computer hardware (motherboard, CPU, etc is different).
The Acronis Rescue Media ISO file that you can download from your Account page is based on the older Linux kernel method, not using Windows PE as the media created by ATI 2018 in Windows would default to making. This should still work with most computers unless they have any RAID or some NVMe M.2 type SSD drives for which the media does not have driver support.
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So you mean if go IN MY ACCOUNT
https://account.acronis.com/#/products
AND DOWNLOAD BOOTABLE MEDIA, THIS IS FOR ANY PC and can used without problems to clone SSD 100GB to SSD 1TB [not nvme and not Raid] ???? ATTENTION ! EVEN I HAVE NOT INSTALLED ACRONIS TI 2018 DUE TO NO SPACE ON OLD SSD C:/???
Where see how many licenses Left... from the pack of 5-Acronis TI2018 i purchased????
here https://eu4-cloud.acronis.com/bc/#m=Resources&s=1&key=all in dashboard ONLY 4 PCs backup show ... meaning i have one license unused ???
needed check source the old SSD for errors first before cloning?
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SSD drives do not normally suffer from the same problems as older HDD spinning disks with such as bad sectors etc, but you should run a CHKDSK /F for the drive to ensure there are no logical file system issues before cloning.
I would always recommend to make a full Disk backup of the source SSD too - this is your safety net in case of any errors or issues during the cloning process.
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All gone ok desktop cloning...
My friend wants to use the 230GB [get out of desktop was two partitions C:/ and G:/] SSD in his laptop
but laptop has a 500GB HDD in two partitions C:/ and G:/
232GB 130GB Free
232GB 200GB Free
If follow the same procedure - normally Acronis clone media should shrink disks appropriately from 500GB HDD to 250GB SSD ... ?
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If follow the same procedure - normally Acronis clone media should shrink disks appropriately from 500GB HDD to 250GB SSD ... ?
Yes, it should resize during the cloning process provided there is sufficient free space available to do this. I would do a CHKDSK /F for the 500GB HDD plus also make a full disk backup before starting to do the clone.
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