ATI restore fails after image was verified - what did it verify?

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1) When you select the option to verify the BU image immediately after image is done, what does it actually verify? Apparently, not enough.
2) Is there any other way to truly check if the image will actually work for a restore, w/o actually trying a real restore?

I've used TI & Ghost in past but rarely had to actually do a restore. Recently, made image of booting C: partition from recovery disk, using latest build of TI 2009.

Made it to DVDs.

Chose to verify image (which it did-no reported probs). Turned around & tried to restore image to another HDD. On 2nd DVD disk (that it just verified as OK??), got the infamous, "cannot read file. May be due to poor quality media or corrupt file."

Didn't it just verify the files it wrote to the disks? Ten min later it can't read them? I tried reinserting / rotating the disk several times. Tried reboot. No go.

3) If the Verification process doesn't catch that some files aren't readable, what good is it?

Later, I cloned that same C: partition to the other HDD I was trying to restore the BU image mentioned above. The cloned drive now boots / runs fine. So, wasn't a problem w/ the source data on C: when I made the image to DVDs.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 17:58
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Does the DVD backup validate okay in Windows? Does it validate on another computer?

I've seen this type of problem myself and with others on the forum. It can be caused by a number of things, including the DVD media, DVD drive, and OS being used. In my case, TI burned the DVD just fine and then couldn't read it. However, it validated just fine in another computer. This means the disc is okay and valid, but the drive can't read it correctly after TI burns it.

It's possible that if you copied the second DVD to another disc (possibly a different brand/type) that it would work just fine.

If the verification passed the first time, TI was able to successfully read it at that time. A successful validation doesn't mean that TI will for sure be able to read the data at a later date. It just means that it did then. This is true for hard drives and other media types too. It's one of the main reasons it's best to have several backups on different media/drives so you're not depending on just one.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 18:17
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Thanks for reply. Not much consolation. Agree about having BU copies on different media.

Again, other than TI's verification process, is there another way to check restoring the image will actually work, other than trying a real restore?  Which one might not want to do, unless to a diff disk / partition.  But, if it's a booting partition, the acid test is booting from restored partition.  That involves a LOT of work just to VERIFY the image.  A "guru" on another forum said once doing image BUs, can just turn off System Restore.  I just laughed & laughed.

I did mention that TI verified all of the disks in BU (assume) just a few min before trying to do a restore w/ them. Not weeks / mos later, after changes to DVDs, in OS or DVD drive itself. This is also 1st time this drive had a prob reading any DVD / CDs, after they were successfully read once. Sure, it's possible for any media to be bad. When I've never had one problem reading any other CDs / DVDs burned w/ this drive by any other means, points to some issue w/ TI.

If I  was 1st to complain about this, I'd be inclined to agree w/ you.  Seems to be fairly common complaint.  All other data or booting disks for any # of prgms, I've burned w/ Nero & verified, or just w/ Windows, & then read them successfully once, I've NEVER had a disk suddenly become "unreadable" under any OS.  They're either bad from the start, or work forever.  Pretty much sums it up. 

This issue overwhelmingly points to either TI's image creation process or flawed verification process.  It took quite a while to verify the 5 DVDs on a fast Q9400 w/ 4 GB RAM & nothing else running.  It was a complete waste of time.  Unlike Nero (for years - but not for OS drive BUs), the TI verification meant nothing.

Thu, 12/16/2010 - 14:39