Can't duplicate a drive from an image

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Have a master setup system that I need to duplicate over three other hd's.

The system originally came setup with Windows 7 but for legacy reasons it was rolled back to Windows XP. The original 500GB Windows 7 setup had a 2 GB System Partition, a 4xx GB main partition, and a ~16GB Recovery partition.

The master setup currently has 2Gb Unallocated space, the 4xx GB main NTFS partition, and the ~16 GB Recovery partition, and boots PERFECTLY.

The various things I've tried in TI 2011 build 6696 (trial version) all fail.

I can boot into Windows and image itself (the boot drive) successfully creating the image file on another drive.

I can boot the Rescue CD and do the same thing.

When I boot the Rescue CD build 6696 (Registered version) and recover to the destination drive, choosing Shut Down upon completion and making sure not to have both source and dest. drives connected upon bootup, I see the Windows XP splash screen v e r y f a i n t l y and incredibly briefly and the machine reboots.

I notice that with the Rescue CD there isn't the Switch to Disk Mode / Switch to Partition Mode that there is in Windows. I sense that my boot failure would go away if it was a complete disk reimage (yes I am clicking the Disk checkbox to get all the partitions when I setup the restore - - but the Unallocated space isn't obviously there).

Upon doing a Clone, I get the same faint XP splash screen followed by an immediate reboot.

I have tried deleting all the destination drive's partitions in Windows and with the Windows XP Installation CD's delete partition function.

I have tried Recovery Console's FIXMBR, FIXBOOT, and BOOTCFG /rebuild all unsuccessfully although maybe I got the order wrong. Glad to revisit that.

I even tried a Sector by Sector backup and get a "There may not be enough free space on the system partition to boot up your
operating system after recovery" error shortcircuiting the restore before it even begins.

Symantec Endpoint Protection is installed and running on the source hard drive.

Glad to get you more info. The more you detail the steps for me to provide what you want, the better.

Very frustrated, please help.

- Rob

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 21:26
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Consider trying this:

1. Install the blank source into the machine being booted when done.
2. Boot from the TI Rescue CD (2011-6696 registered version). Use the Recover/Restore mode.
3. When choosing what to be restored, check mark the disk option. (This will cause all partitions to be checked.)
4. When you get to selecting the target disk, on the same screen, also checkmark the "Recover Disk signature".
Select the blank disk as the restore target.
5. When restore completed, shutdown and boot with only the new restored disk.

Couple notes:
The best backup is one that includes all partitions so that everything is included.
Also, it is best that the backup be taken when the disk is in its normal in-use location.
If the computers involved are Thinkpads, the target disk must be in its intended boot position (as above) and is the only one that will work.
In order to boot properly, the computer configuration must match the original computer exactly, otherwise you will need to obtain the PlusPak with the universal restore option.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 00:24
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Grover, thanks for replying.

I'm glad to review it with you, but I was already doing all of your steps save one, checking the Recover Disk Signature (which I'm kicking myself for, I knew that). However after trying the restore again with that setting checked, the exact same problem still occurs. With TI 2011-6696 registered version Rescue CD it is only called Recovery unless I'm missing something.

The two computers are identical.

Just for background, to avoid hard drive moves, I have them side by side, have moved the host adapter end of the SATA cable from the destination computer and have plugged that end into the source computer's 3rd SATA connection. I'm still powering on the destination computer so that the destination drive has power.

Let me know if you think the destination drive needs to be zeroed out, the image redone or something.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 01:51
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After reviewing your post again, it's solved!

In the inital process of back rev'ing the computer from Windows 7 to Windows XP I got a blue screen of death early in the XP installation process. Web searches pointed to turning the SATA from its default mode to IDE mode, curing the blue screen.

Of the four machines I've been working with, I'd similarly changed the setting on the others ... except this one!

After setting it to IDE it booted like a charm. Didn't even have to re-restore it.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 02:00
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Great. Sometimes the devil is in the detail and how do you know what you do not know. Nice that it's solved.

Thu, 05/12/2011 - 02:34
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Rob Gaines wrote:

After reviewing your post again, it's solved!

In the inital process of back rev'ing the computer from Windows 7 to Windows XP I got a blue screen of death early in the XP installation process. Web searches pointed to turning the SATA from its default mode to IDE mode, curing the blue screen.

Of the four machines I've been working with, I'd similarly changed the setting on the others ... except this one!

After setting it to IDE it booted like a charm. Didn't even have to re-restore it.

As an aside, is this an HP system?  The procedure to get SATA working in a HP system under Windows XP is this:

  1. Go into the BIOS and set SATA Native Mode to Off (or set it to IDE emulation mode, depending on the BIOS).
  2. Install Windows XP.
  3. Install the chipset drivers.
  4. Install the Intel Matrix Storage Manager.  This will fail, but it will extract the SATA drivers to C:\swsetup\<package code>.
  5. Go to Device Manager and locate the hard drive controller.
  6. Right-click the controller and select Update Driver.
  7. Go through the driver installation wizard to the part where you do Have Disk and select that.
  8. Locate the drivers extracted by the Intel Matrix Storage Manager and select the folder containing them, then press OK.
  9. Select the correct controller for your system and let the drivers install.
  10. Reboot the system.
  11. Go into the BIOS and set SATA Native Mode to On (or to AHCI mode, depending on the BIOS).
  12. Save changes and exit.
  13. The system should correctly boot, then it will install more drivers automatically and ask for a reboot.  Let it.
  14. When the system comes back up, you are good to go and ready to install the rest of your drivers and software with SATA mode working correctly.

For some reason, the F6 driver load during Windows XP setup doesn't work for HP systems.  It always has resulted in a BSOD for me.  The above method is what I've seen during my research and it also is the method that HP suggests if you ask their support about it.

Fri, 05/13/2011 - 13:43