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ATI 2010 Problem with consolidating backups

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I am running ATI 2010 on my PC which has two drives (C: and D:) that I am trying to back up to another internal drive. I have set up tasks to create an incremental backup either each day (for D:\\\\0 or every 2 days (for C:) at a specified time. I have also set it up to consolidate the incremental backups every 4-5 days However I am finding that (i) more than one incremental backup is sometimes created each day, and (ii) that the consolidation does not always occur - this gives me problems with the backup drive running out of disk space.

For example: I sometimes get incremental files created such as:
BU_C.tib (the original backup)
BU_C_1.tib
BU_C_2.tib
BU_C_2_5391E077-78BF-4SAF-86E5-.....tib
BU_C_2_5391E077-78BF-4SAF-86E5-.....tib (I get a series of these with differing charatcers for the last 4-8 characters; often created on the same day).

I can understand that I should be getting a new backup file created each day, but am unclear why I am sometimes getting multiple backups for the same day, and particularly with the very long filename.

Can anybody help me better undersatdn / solve what is happening?

Many thanks

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Martin,

Consolidation often fails because it requires a lot of space: basically the backups that need to be consolidated are first duplicated into working copies, than operated upon. If the operation works, then the original copies are deleted and the working copies are renamed with normal names.

Is there a chance that you don't have enough space for this duplicate copies to be there?

Pat1,

No there is usually more than enough space for the backup. However because it often fails to consolidate properly, the number of backups increases and the backup drive does run out of space. Then I have the problem of choosing which files to delete to create more space (I generally create a complete new backup and delete the rest, and then create a new task for the daily backup).

What I am trying to do is to backup my data drive every day, keep up to 5 days of incremental backups, and then consolidate it after every 5 days so that I have a "complete" backup ready for the next 5 days; similar for my C: operating system drive, except that I'm only incrementally backing it up every 2nd day, and then trying to consolidate after the 5th incremental backup. It just doesn't seem to work as I get a load of different files being created (see 1st post) that don't seem to correspond to 1 incremental backup per day, and then after >5 days when the consolidation doesn't work properly I get problems running out of space. I'm using a dedicated backup drive (a 2Tb HDD that occupies a 3rd bay in my PC).

I'm running Windows 7 Professional by the way.

Cheers

What about doing this?
- incremental backup,
- create a new full after 5 backups,
- turn auto-cleaning on,
- don't store no more than 1 most recent version chain.

On day 6, after the 5th incremental, ATI will do a new full, then erase the first 6 backups (first full and its 5 incrementals.

Pat L.

Thanks for the suggestion, but when I tried to edit my scheduled backup tasks to take account of your suggestions I started running into another (new) problem.

When I tried to edit the task, and re-enter the schedule information, it gave me an error saying that my login information was incorrect. Also, if I tried to start any of my scheduled tasks, I got an error saying "failed to run task" possibly because of some user account restriction or a blank password.

I tried creating a new scheduled task from scratch and got the same errors.

I also tried rebooting my PC, and opening ATI 2010 by "run as administrator" - same error when I try to run a scheduled task. (I'm running windows 7).

I can run an single, manual backup without error; and until I tried to edit the scheduled tasks, they were running each day without any of these errors.

Any idea what has changed?

I am the only user of the PC, and should have full administrator priveleges. Also on the "scheduling" option I am allowing ATIO to fill in the user (e.g. comptername\myname) automatically and leaving the password blank - as I have done previously.

Pat L

Many thanks. I had already looked at the kb and tried the first 2 suggestions, but not the 3rd (blank password). So I followed the instructions about changing the blank password setting in the registry..... and I can now start a scheduled task!

I don't know how the registry value changed - the only thing I can think of is that I installed Windows 7 Service Pack 1 a few weeks ago, and that might have modified it. (The last time I updated/edited my ATI schedules was some weeks ago).

Many thanks for your help. You are a star!

Cheers