Cloning HD
I'm trying to upgrade my HD from 150GB to 320GB. When I clone the drive I end up with a 149GB C:\ and a 149GB E:\ with 149 GB of unallocated space that you can't access. I have XP sp3 on a EIDE drive.
I last time I used this software was to upgrade from 80 to the 150GB drive and it worked flawlessly. I have an adaptor to plug the new drive into a USB port and then stuck the new drive in and it booted right up.
What it looks like you did was not to control PROPORTIONALLY. You performed the operation AS IS. Boot with your TI Rescue Media, select MANUAL MODE, go from old drive to new drive, and do it proportionally. When done, change drives and boot to the new one.
Cloning is quick and easy and does not need to involve secure zones or whatevers, or even the system OS.
Well, actually I have done this at least 6 or 8 times and have done it every combination of ways I can think of. First it was automatic, then proportional and then manual. In manual it won't let e adjust the size of the partition to anything larger than 149GB and in proportional mode it just come out again with a 149GB drive with 149GB unallocated.
Are you telling it to delete all partitions on the target drive? If you don't do that, it will only use the space available.
When cloning, if you choose the manual mode, you can adjust the partitions sizes to your own choices.
The cloning should be done when booted from the TI Recovery CD.
Ok, I've tried 2 more times since the last post. First it was from windows and I thought I had it partitioned at 149GB/149GB (not sure why it won't let me adjust the partition to have one 320GB drive). After about 6 hrs. it got to about about 95% and then got an error. When it rebooted it didn't even show there was a drive connected. ATI still had it and Device Manager listed it, but Windows Explorer didn't show it.
The last time I booted to the ATI boot disc and ran it again. It was supposed to take 8 hrs, but after about 4½ hrs. it was done and I have one 149GB drive with 34Gb of free space just like the original.
Dan
Ok, I finally got the cloning done. It still wouldn't allow me to adust the partition to have one 300Gb drive but at least I now have two 149Gb drives. And I tried it both ways, with and without booting up to the TI recovery CD. It works the same. I even took the time to use DiskCleanser thinking that wiping it clean might be the only way to get rid of that 149 (Berlin wall) partition...........nope.
I'm keeping the old drive "as is" for awhile. Does anybody have any ideas how I might get rid of this wall so I could have one 320Gb HD?
Dan
Are you trying all of this using the clonging mode? Why don't you try the easy and faster method of just doing a backup and restoring. Clonging is almost always more work unless you're going from same to same. YOu'd think it'd be shorter, faster, but as you can see, it's not.
Once you have a backup you can reset the partition(s) on the intended target drive and restore the backup to the partition on the target drive.
You can use any disk partitioning manager software to reset the partitions, including windows fdisk, or Gparted (which is free). With Gparted you shouldn't have to delete the existing partitionthat you want and be able to delete the other partition and then allocate teh space to the partition you want.
You can use any disk partitioning manager software to reset the partitions, including windows fdisk, or Gparted (which is free). With Gparted you shouldn't have to delete the existing partitionthat you want and be able to delete the other partition and then allocate teh space to the partition you want.
You can use any disk partitioning manager software to reset the partitions, including windows fdisk, or Gparted (which is free). With Gparted you shouldn't have to delete the existing partitionthat you want and be able to delete the other partition and then allocate teh space to the partition you want.
You can use any disk partitioning manager software to reset the partitions, including windows fdisk, or Gparted (which is free). With Gparted you shouldn't have to delete the existing partitionthat you want and be able to delete the other partition and then allocate teh space to the partition you want.
You can use any disk partitioning manager software to reset the partitions, including windows fdisk, or Gparted (which is free). With Gparted you shouldn't have to delete the existing partitionthat you want and be able to delete the other partition and then allocate teh space to the partition you want.
You can use any disk partitioning manager software to reset the partitions, including windows fdisk, or Gparted (which is free). With Gparted you shouldn't have to delete the existing partitionthat you want and be able to delete the other partition and then allocate teh space to the partition you want.
You can use any disk partitioning manager software to reset the partitions, including windows fdisk, or Gparted (which is free). With Gparted you shouldn't have to delete the existing partitionthat you want and be able to delete the other partition and then allocate teh space to the partition you want.
You can use any disk partitioning manager software to reset the partitions, including windows fdisk, or Gparted (which is free). With Gparted you shouldn't have to delete the existing partitionthat you want and be able to delete the other partition and then allocate teh space to the partition you want.
You can use any disk partitioning manager software to reset the partitions, including windows fdisk, or Gparted (which is free). With Gparted you shouldn't have to delete the existing partitionthat you want and be able to delete the other partition and then allocate teh space to the partition you want.
You can use any disk partitioning manager software to reset the partitions, including windows fdisk, or Gparted (which is free). With Gparted you shouldn't have to delete the existing partitionthat you want and be able to delete the other partition and then allocate teh space to the partition you want.
Wow Scott what happened I got this same comment 11 times? Anyway ??'s
Should I put the old drive back in my laptop and use an external drive to do the backup to?
Or can I just use Gpart to move the already cloned drive and move the partition to have one larger drive?
Won't moving a partition destroy all the data on the drive?
You got it 11 times? I blame society. . . ;)
Before yo do anything else, make abackup so that you can get everything back no matter what happens. If you don't have a srive tostore backups, get one -- it's a good investment.
Anyway, Gparted won't/can't move any data around. It can delete the empty partition you don't want and allocate the the then freed up space to the partition you do want. This should work on the target drive that already has the cloned data on it. And yo should be done.
Yes, you should get an external drive to store your backups images. I recommend regular backing up and storing multiple backups sothat you have a history you can resort to if necessary.
If for some reason the above doesn't work, then you can use any parititon manager tomake one big partition on the target disk, do a manual restore of the desired partition only from the backup file to the target disk partition, in fact it should at that point allow you to allocate any unsed space to the target partition if you're doing a prtition only restore. With a full disk restore, I don't think you get an option and athe source size is assumed for the target size.
Check item 7D in my signature link below. Perhaps it can help.
The TI cloning option enables you to duplicate the disk so you have two identical disks. The clone will match the same number of partitions as existing on the original disk. The TI cloning procedure does not offer the capability to add or delete partitions.
If you want the maximum size on the first partition, then you adjust the size (manual mode) on the second one so it is very very small. Once you finish, you can use the Windows Disk Management program to remove the drive letter from the second partition--if that is your choice.
A better choice to adjust the number of partitions would be to use the Partition Restore with Resize option. This is discussed in item 7B of my signature link.
Performing the function when booted from the TI Rescue CD will usually offer the best chance for success.
I think we might have stumbled on to the problem. As stated in the original post the drive that I'm trying to now clone is a clone. When I upgraded from 80Gb to 160Gb it created a drive with a partition at 149Gb and now when I try to clone this drive from a 160/149Gb drive to a 320Gb drive it copies that partition and it is nonadjustable.
I will check out the links you suggested. Thanks, Dan
Look at your clone via the Windows Disk Management graphical view. This will show the composition of any partitions if multiple partitions exist.
I am considering getting an Acronis product to do my regular backups, but am confused by the discussions in this forum, mostly about how reliable any product from Acronis is at cloning the running system disk.
I am running Windows XP (Pro) [SP3, up-to-date as of a few days ago]. The PC has three identical disk drives (IDE/PATA, currently 160G, through an Adaptec PCI-IDE adapter). I run the O/S off of disk 0 (assigned letter C). The two other disks are for alternating backup copies of the system disk. I can leave the backup copies unassigned (drive letters), or assign letters and access backed-up files at will.
Alternating the backup destination disks means that, if the backup process itself ever fails, I still have the most recent backup, as long as I use the older backup disk as the destination. [This happened once since I started doing this in 2005; restarting the backup worked.]
If I ever have a failure of the system disk, I can just move the disks around and run off of the most recent copy and replace the failed disk.
I have been doing this successfully since 2005 and want to continue the process. (And, I have moved the disks around, starting with the move from the PC's original SCSI disk to 120G IDE/PATA drives to the current IDE/PATA drives. I've also done it to external IDE drives through a USB-to-IDE adapter.)
I am currently using Ghost 9.0 (part of Symantec/Norton Systemworks 2005) for the disk cloning, But, I'm not crazy about Symantec and am looking for an alternative.
I leave my system running for long periods of time. I do not want to shut the system down to boot off of a CD to either back up or restore the system disk. [If I have to shut the system down to copy the system disk, why wouldn't I just use the cloning CD that comes with any disk that I buy?]
Can an Acronis product be used reliably to clone the running system disk? Can I use the free trial to test it out and be confident that, if it works, when I pay to continue its use, that it will continue to work?
To restore a windows system disk, you have to be booted into another OS or at least another instance of one.
It's not clear that the latest version of ATI can reliably clone on some systems. It appears to have problems on at least some hardware platforms and with W7. You can try it for free, not counting your time and effort of course ;)
The cloning operation doens't occur as a background operation, but you can do backups (copy an image of an entiore partititon or disk into a file) while running the OS.