Wndows 8 Pro/ True Image 2013/ Clone Wizaed hangs

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Hi, I am trying to use the "clone" tool to create a clone image of my entire HD/OS to the WD My Book ( USB 3.0 .3T)

Everything runs fine until I get to the section to chose the "destination drive"... I cannot do anything or make a selection because it just hangs..............

The " My Book" is "unlocked"

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance

Fr, 11/16/2012 - 04:18
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There is no value in cloning to a My Book. The My Book will not be bootable as a Windows OS.

Your best course is to make a full disk mode backup, which includes all partitions (even hidden ones), to the My Book. That will include everything: Windows; all your settings; all your installed software applications; all your data; ... everything.

Each backup is saved as a compressed .tib archive. As such, multiple .tib archives may be saved to a single backup drive, allowing for greater redundancy, security and flexibility.

Once a full disk image .tib archive is restored to a drive, the result is the same as if that drive had been the target of a clone done on the date and time that the backup archive was created.

Fr, 11/16/2012 - 04:25
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John,

Unless you are trying to make your 3TB drive an exact copy of your OS hard disk, you do not want to do a clone.
You will not be able to boot to the "cloned" USB connected drive after cloning, as Windows does not allow booting from a USB drive.

If you wish to make a Full backup of your OS disk, you should create a full Disk based backup from Acronis to the 3TB external drive.
This will create a backup file (.tib) on the external disk, and this can be used to restore your entire system, OS and all.

Cloning is used to make an exact duplicate of a source drive to a destination drive. This is used when upgrading to a new hard disk or to have a spare drive ready to go in an emergency.

Creating full disk based backups (and any additional incremental or differential backups that are based on the full backup) will allow you to recover your system to any point in time that exist in the backups.

Please take a look at some of the documentation for 2013 and familiarize yourself with the concepts of backup and cloning.
On the left side of the forums screen are some 2013 Getting Started guides, full web based 2013 documentation, and some excellent guides provided by MVP Grover (Thanks, Grover). Some are based on 2012, but the concepts are very similar.

James

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tuttle wrote:

There is no value in cloning to a My Book. The My Book will not be bootable as a Windows OS.

Your best course is to make a full disk mode backup, which includes all partitions (even hidden ones), to the My Book. That will include everything: Windows; all your settings; all your installed software applications; all your data; ... everything.

Each backup is saved as a compressed .tib archive. As such, multiple .tib archives may be saved to a single backup drive, allowing for greater redundancy, security and flexibility.

Once a full disk image .tib archive is restored to a drive, the result is the same as if that drive had been the target of a clone done on the date and time that the backup archive was created.

Got it..I thought so... the user manual is "large on description" poor on "how to".. in my books hard to understand and arcane, so much so once I get the gist of this I will post a step by step "how to" video on my Youtube channel

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James F wrote:

John,

Unless you are trying to make your 3TB drive an exact copy of your OS hard disk, you do not want to do a clone.
You will not be able to boot to the "cloned" USB connected drive after cloning, as Windows does not allow booting from a USB drive.

If you wish to make a Full backup of your OS disk, you should create a full Disk based backup from Acronis to the 3TB external drive.
This will create a backup file (.tib) on the external disk, and this can be used to restore your entire system, OS and all.

Cloning is used to make an exact duplicate of a source drive to a destination drive. This is used when upgrading to a new hard disk or to have a spare drive ready to go in an emergency.

Creating full disk based backups (and any additional incremental or differential backups that are based on the full backup) will allow you to recover your system to any point in time that exist in the backups.

Please take a look at some of the documentation for 2013 and familiarize yourself with the concepts of backup and cloning.
On the left side of the forums screen are some 2013 Getting Started guides, full web based 2013 documentation, and some excellent guides provided by MVP Grover (Thanks, Grover). Some are based on 2012, but the concepts are very similar.

James

James, in fact I am operating my( on another computer) " Music studio" on a Wndows XP Pro OS, the HD is reaching 6 years, so I have a 1T WD Velociraptor that I want to " clone" to.
The idea is to make the image transfer before HD failure .
The second application on this machine, is to do 2 things
1) preserve the present state on Windows 8 Pro as a backup to fall back on, right now its running perfectly
2)I bought the "downloadable upgrade" of Windows 8 Pro, so I have no DVD to fall back on.....hence the urgency to create this back up etc

Thanks for pointing out the literature on this site, will look it up.
As stated before, the users manual, though very descriptive, lacks the "idiots guide" step by step approach..had me reading and re-reading it..

Cheers

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When you do "clone" the XP drive to the new 1TB drive, be sure to use the bootable Rescue Media, and do not let the system boot with both drives attached after the clone is finished. It is best to disconnect the original drive and place the new drive in its place, and connect the original drive via USB or a secondary connection in your system. Then clone from the original drive, to the new drive, turning off the system after the clone operation is finished, while still booted to the Rescue Media. Disconnect the original drive, then boot up to your new drive. The original drive can be connected after the first boot is successful.

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Hmm.. I will have to Boot into Windows to do the clone..this precludes it "being attached via USB"

Here was what I was going to do

1) Format the raptor though Windows XP " Manager"
2)using True Image 2013 use the old XP Pro HD as "source" point to the raptor HD as "destination
3) when the "cloning " is finished, shut down the computer, detach the old HD
4) reboot into the newly cloned raptor HD

I believe the clone process happens in after a reboot anyhow?

Cheers

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Boot to the Acronis Rescue Media to do the clone. Do not do the clone from within Windows if at all possible.
In the Acronis True Image application, both in the Windows version and the bootable Rescue Media version, there is a tool to allow you to "clean" (initialize) your drive. You do not need to format the drive in Windows first.

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