Acronis True Image Wish List.
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I wish this is the right place to post, about ATIH Online backup.
ATIH online backup beats other solutions in the pricing department. There is no comparison here. But, there is one *big* thing missing: Apps for iOS and android, to be able to access my online files from my phone or tablet.
When and if I see there are these Apps available, I'll jump right in and purchase a suscription for ATIH Online Backup.
Thank you.
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Oh, I have another wish, and this goes to the Wish list forum
What about giving forum members the possibility to "grade" each post? This way, you'd have a chance to quickly see those things that are the most popular, and you'd have a clearer idea on what to work on.
Thanks again!
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After every new installation of True Image I do not want it to search the system for every backup it can find and put them on the list. I know where they are and will browse for them if needed. A simple search button and/or a 'search system? yes/no' query box at the initial run would be just fine.
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PLEASE: There should be a global option which decides if "Shutdown Computer after backup" (the checkbox inside an active backup item during backup) performes a real Shutdown or only a Standby*. The latter Standby is preferred by most users who reboot their computer every 3-4 weeks and use Standby to wake up their computer at the same point where they were the day before. This is much more convenient! Moreover, a real Shutdown often does not work because there are always some programs which prevent the Shutdown. Standby however does always work!
*Standby is an other word for "Sleep mode"
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One of the most important aspects a backup program should be able to deal with is the "Disk is full" problem! I have a 2 terabyte backup hard disc where I save ATIH image backups from other partitions. Now the hard disc has become full and the backups failed! So I looked into the backup settings: There is NO option to automatically delete the oldest backup if the disk becomes full!!! So dear Acronis, PLEASE add this option! Moreover, it is not clear from the ATIH user interface what the user can do to regain space on the full target backup disc: Should he manually remove old .TIB files in Windows Explorer? I think this would be a bad idea, since this bypasses the ATIH backup management. On the other hand, I did not see any tool in the ATIH user interface to free space on the backup disc, or to manually delete the oldest backup version. So PLEASE Acronis, provide a solution for this problem!!!
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Let's be clear if we're talking about s1, s2, s3 modes. booting pc every few weeks and leaving in standby the whole time, usinf electricity neeedlessly. I assume you actually meant hibernation.
Peter Panino wrote:PLEASE: There should be a global option which decides if "Shutdown Computer after backup" (the checkbox inside an active backup item during backup) performes a real Shutdown or only a Standby*. The latter Standby is preferred by most users who reboot their computer every 3-4 weeks and use Standby to wake up their computer at the same point where they were the day before. This is much more convenient! Moreover, a real Shutdown often does not work because there are always some programs which prevent the Shutdown. Standby however does always work!
*Standby is an other word for "Sleep mode"
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You can do that in ati. You can make a task to limit by size dat or number.
the problem is when the tasks don't operate properly, orhpan backups, and then doesn't onclude them in the delete routine. alas.
Peter Panino wrote:One of the most important aspects a backup program should be able to deal with is the "Disk is full" problem! I have a 2 terabyte backup hard disc where I save ATIH image backups from other partitions. Now the hard disc has become full and the backups failed! So I looked into the backup settings: There is NO option to automatically delete the oldest backup if the disk becomes full!!! So dear Acronis, PLEASE add this option! Moreover, it is not clear from the ATIH user interface what the user can do to regain space on the full target backup disc: Should he manually remove old .TIB files in Windows Explorer? I think this would be a bad idea, since this bypasses the ATIH backup management. On the other hand, I did not see any tool in the ATIH user interface to free space on the backup disc, or to manually delete the oldest backup version. So PLEASE Acronis, provide a solution for this problem!!!
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Scott Hieber wrote:Let's be clear if we're talking about s1, s2, s3 modes. booting pc every few weeks and leaving in standby the whole time, usinf electricity neeedlessly. I assume you actually meant hibernation.
I didn't mean hibernation, I meant Standby, and all computers today support S3. My computer uses very little electricity in Standby mode. Moreover, Acronis doesn't have to pay my electricity bill, so I don't see an obstacle to implement such an option ...
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Scott Hieber wrote:You can do that in ati. You can make a task to limit by size dat or number.
Obviously you didn't read my comment carefully. I didn't write about limiting a backup by size or number of versions or age. I wrote "DISC IS FULL". This is a completely different issue. Why? For example, imagine you have several different ATI tasks each backing up to one single hard disc (a common scenario). In this case the disc can easily become full without the single backup tasks reaching their individual cleanup rule limits. And it's not feasible to correctly calculate the cleanup rules for the single backup tasks, because they are not interdependent. So the only secure and working cleanup rule here is the "DISC IS FULL" trigger. Of course the "DISC IS FULL" cleanup rule would have to make sure the backup consistency is preserved. However, in most cases a "DISC IS FULL" cleanup rule which consistently deletes the oldest backup generation (talking about version chains) would be the best solution. So please implement this and let the user chose what's best for him!
Also, when the "Disk is (almost) full" event arises, instead of stopping the backup with an error, ATIH should ask me: "Disc is almost full. Should I delete the oldest version from this (or an other) backup?" THIS would be really smart!
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In fact, Standby certainly consumes LESS electricity than Shutdown. Why? Because after having shut down his computer, the user needs to wait several minutes for the computer to reboot, restart applications, adjust settings, load files, etc. to continue his work from where he has left it the day before. In this useless time, the computer consumes much more energy than the Standby mode overnight.
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This is absurd. He was talking about not restarting for several weeks at a time.
Peter Panino wrote:In fact, Standby certainly consumes LESS electricity than Shutdown. Why? Because after having shut down his computer, the user needs to wait several minutes for the computer to reboot, restart applications, adjust settings, load files, etc. to continue his work from where he has left it the day before. In this useless time, the computer consumes much more energy than the Standby mode overnight.
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Actually, I read your post; i just didn't pay enough attention. In fact there should be a check for diskspace, however, only a guess at needd space can be made befor a backup is made. But some good guessing could occur. E.g., if backing up , say, 19 GB and the target 10GB free, it's a good guess that compression won't yield a backup that fits. Now which backup set gets a file deleted , and how much deletion is acceptable is a bit trickier. some folks might not want any deletion, etc. . .
Peter Panino wrote:Scott Hieber wrote:You can do that in ati. You can make a task to limit by size dat or number.Obviously you didn't read my comment carefully. I didn't write about limiting a backup by size or number of versions or age. I wrote "DISC IS FULL". This is a completely different issue. Why? For example, imagine you have several different ATI tasks each backing up to one single hard disc (a common scenario). In this case the disc can easily become full without the single backup tasks reaching their individual cleanup rule limits. And it's not feasible to correctly calculate the cleanup rules for the single backup tasks, because they are not interdependent. So the only secure and working cleanup rule here is the "DISC IS FULL" trigger. Of course the "DISC IS FULL" cleanup rule would have to make sure the backup consistency is preserved. However, in most cases a "DISC IS FULL" cleanup rule which consistently deletes the oldest backup generation (talking about version chains) would be the best solution. So please implement this and let the user chose what's best for him!
Also, when the "Disk is (almost) full" event arises, instead of stopping the backup with an error, ATIH should ask me: "Disc is almost full. Should I delete the oldest version from this (or an other) backup?" THIS would be really smart!
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Actually, if you run through the math, you'll find it's less energy to hibernate than go into standy if you are goun to standby/hiberate for more more tahn about half an hour -- unless you have say, a dozen or so harddrives and a boot up time about 15 mintes longer from hibernation than standby. It's like the old myth that it uses less electricity to leave you lights on than turn them off because of the start-up inrush current. If the lights are incandescents off for only a few minutes, it can be more current to restart. but otherwise, not so. I think there was even a mythbusters episode on this.
Peter Panino wrote:In fact, Standby certainly consumes LESS electricity than Shutdown. Why? Because after having shut down his computer, the user needs to wait several minutes for the computer to reboot, restart applications, adjust settings, load files, etc. to continue his work from where he has left it the day before. In this useless time, the computer consumes much more energy than the Standby mode overnight.
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Frequently there is enough space on my external hdd to hold another backup. However there is not enough space to hold the new backup in addition to the previous one. And until the new backup is finished, it is using additional space, and then it replaces the previous one, since I have it set to "overwrite" the previous one. It would be nice if the new back up could be put on the C:\ space, if no room exists on the backup drive, and then transfer it to the designated backup drive when finished. In addition, there is no notification that the backup is not finished if it runs out of space. It just decides the user wants to cancel the backup.
So I wish the program to hunt for the required temporary space on the C:\ drive if it runs out on the backup drive.
I would also wish to be notified if the backup does not complete.
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This would be problematic in many circumstances; the entire temporary file would need to be copied over to the target, which would take nearly as long as creating the backup in the first place, basically doubling backup times, which is a significant issue is your backups are large. And, of course, using a temp directory only pushes off the issue one step. What if the temp directory's drive is full?
The reason an ati backup task doesn't delete a backup until it finishes making a new one is to prevent deleting of backups when no new one is made. Suppose you get an error while backing up, so repeat the back to check, or the task is repeatedly run run on schedule. Before long you could have all your existing backups deleted and no new backups made. ATI is meant to avoid such a disaster.
If there isn't enough room, the backup is cancelled because there is nothing else it can do; it can't make a backup if it won't fit. Notifications are not ATI's strong suit and one has to check occasionally to ensure that backups are bing created and deleted in the desired manner. The newer versions (2009, 2010, 2011, 2012) are more troublesome in the regard, ime, than the older versions (ati 10, ATI 11).
In this day and age, with hdisk prices so low, there's almost no need to ever run out of diskspace -- of course, even an inexpensive drive costs money.
David Barker wrote:Frequently there is enough space on my external hdd to hold another backup. However there is not enough space to hold the new backup in addition to the previous one. And until the new backup is finished, it is using additional space, and then it replaces the previous one, since I have it set to "overwrite" the previous one. It would be nice if the new back up could be put on the C:\ space, if no room exists on the backup drive, and then transfer it to the designated backup drive when finished. In addition, there is no notification that the backup is not finished if it runs out of space. It just decides the user wants to cancel the backup.
So I wish the program to hunt for the required temporary space on the C:\ drive if it runs out on the backup drive.
I would also wish to be notified if the backup does not complete.
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Thanks, Scott. But I would still like the "option" to do it my way. My backup is running over night during the wee hours of the morning. So waiting for the transfer is not a problem to me. I'll find out about it the next day. ;)
Scott Hieber wrote:This would be problematic in many circumstances; the entire temporary file would need to be copied over to the target, which would take nearly as long as creating the backup in the first place, basically doubling backup times, which is a significant issue is your backups are large. And, of course, using a temp directory only pushes off the issue one step. What if the temp directory's drive is full?The reason an ati backup task doesn't delete a backup until it finishes making a new one is to prevent deleting of backups when no new one is made. Suppose you get an error while backing up, so repeat the back to check, or the task is repeatedly run run on schedule. Before long you could have all your existing backups deleted and no new backups made. ATI is meant to avoid such a disaster.
If there isn't enough room, the backup is cancelled because there is nothing else it can do; it can't make a backup if it won't fit. Notifications are not ATI's strong suit and one has to check occasionally to ensure that backups are bing created and deleted in the desired manner. The newer versions (2009, 2010, 2011, 2012) are more troublesome in the regard, ime, than the older versions (ati 10, ATI 11).
In this day and age, with hdisk prices so low, there's almost no need to ever run out of diskspace -- of course, even an inexpensive drive costs money.
David Barker wrote:Frequently there is enough space on my external hdd to hold another backup. However there is not enough space to hold the new backup in addition to the previous one. And until the new backup is finished, it is using additional space, and then it replaces the previous one, since I have it set to "overwrite" the previous one. It would be nice if the new back up could be put on the C:\ space, if no room exists on the backup drive, and then transfer it to the designated backup drive when finished. In addition, there is no notification that the backup is not finished if it runs out of space. It just decides the user wants to cancel the backup.
So I wish the program to hunt for the required temporary space on the C:\ drive if it runs out on the backup drive.
I would also wish to be notified if the backup does not complete.
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I wish there was a better GUI, I feel like the earlier versions were easier to follow and understand and a little more support. The forms are great but we should not have to rely on each other to get the product to work.
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I am running the current version of True Image Plus 2012 on four PCs.
I would like to see a much better GUI. In particular when creating a Disk and Partition backup the code is very clumsy and poorly written. I have set up a number of default, particularly the email report to follow a backup. This is generally forgotten when I must create a new backup or edit an existing one.
Editing an existing backup has proved particularly frustrating. My backups go to a NAS drive. Recently I changed the name of the public export for the NAS disk and had to go to 4 Acronis installations to update the backup sets. In each case it was essentially impossible to rename to Location; the old device was no longer available but the software insisted that I provide "credentials" for the nonexistent directory. Further when attempting the set a new directory, the software frequently simply ignores the directory selected and reverts to one of its mindless names.
The user experience with product is terrible and should be addressed quickly. This product has been on the market for far too long to be so poorly written.
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Acronis True Image help file (http://kb.acronis.com/content/23877) clearly says: "(!) It is not possible to use Acronis Nonstop Backup for protecting data on external hard drives."
That would be very very helpful backup feature for me. I'm wondering why is it not possible to have it - is there a technical issue or what? I'd like to understand the case...
In other words, "Omnia Mea Mecum Porto" - have all my data always with me and want to have it synced anytime I connect it with my PC. It's possible to use "non-nonstop backup" feature but that one takes time to finish up.
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==> It is not possible to use Acronis Nonstop Backup for protecting data on external hard drives.
If you take a moment to think about external drive connection technology, you can see why it would be prohibitive (fidelity & speed). Can certainly be done, just prohibitive... As USB4/10G/etc become the norm, this may be a possibility, but for now, probably not a great idea...
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Software designers have gotten away from the concept of KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). Especially for backup software, short and to the point is critical. Make sure it works with all popular platforms. The boot disk for most other utilities is based on Windows PE. Acronis should do the same,but it is probably a money / licensing issue.
Pat
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I know that you - like every company - want to build in more features than your competition which is fine but usability is also a fact that is considered when buying a software.
So I would like to have a "basic" mode without all those things I don't need and understand.
I never understood why I should need Try and Decide, Secure Zone, OneClick, BootSecure, NonstopBackup, PlusPack, excluding of files or a difference between images, documents and other files.
A lot of people will find that this is exactly what they need. Might be me, but all those features confuse me so I always get the feeling I am doing something wrong so I won't be able to recover from the backup in case of a problem. But shouldn't that be the main purpose of a backup solution?
So best to suit all would be a basic mode which hides all those confusing options and software parts (or even doesn't install them in the first place) and just let the user make image backups from drives and partitions, full or incremental, validate them, mount and search them to restore single files or restore full drives or partitions.
And no separate PlusPack just one single application.
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All above mentioned features should be in a menue during install where I can choose what I need. Feature i don't need in the current install starts services and writes to the registry. What is not installed can not make trouble on my computer.
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What's funny is that if you read this thread, you can walk away with some basic themes:
1 - base functions on install, and other features should be installed only if needed/desired -- i.e. get rid of bloat
2 - fix all bugs first, then work on new features
3 - work on interface
Now, take a look at the 2013 Beta.... Do you think that Acronis actually listened to the feedback posted in this thread (as stated numerous times) or just created this thread to shine everyone on? You decide...
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Installation Suggestions and Wishes
After just experiencing a Windows BSOD at the reboot after install at the "Starting Windows" screen for the latest version of ATIH 2012, build 7133, I'd suggest the following:
1. Include optional removal of prior version of ATIH (any version) as part of the install.
2. Also include saving of prior settings / structures, etc. for new install.
3. Also inlcude programmatic cleanup of files before install occurs.
I went through "heck" trying to recover my laptop!
A personal wish for Home software would be to NOT archive an ASZ file that was used for recovery. In my instance, I had to go back one week further than necessary to recover a second time. This shouldn't happen in a Home environment. If anything, just mark and report that the file has been used prior (date/time stamp) but let it be used as many times as necessary.
Thanks, but clean it up, please...
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In notification options, I'd like an option to pop up a message box or some other dialog to tell me that the backup has completed so I can disconnect my external backup media and put it away.
This seems like such a simple and obvious option to offer that it surprises me that it isn't already available.
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Seems like not totally necessary additional code. There is an icon on the tray when ATI is backing up, when it disappears, it's done. If that's not enough, you can have a status panel display and that will give "operation successful completion" message. I'm figuring that, for your case, if you could see a tray icon you could see a panel as you must be running the backups while you are at the machine.
Gene Warner wrote:In notification options, I'd like an option to pop up a message box or some other dialog to tell me that the backup has completed so I can disconnect my external backup media and put it away.
This seems like such a simple and obvious option to offer that it surprises me that it isn't already available.
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This user wanted to create an ASZ on a Dynamic Disk. Not Supported.
His post turned into more a feature request. I'm referencing it here for consideration in a future release.
Create Acronis Secure Zone - Dynamic Disk
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I would like to see support of networked drives.
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JUST WANT TO SEE THE NEW VERSION OF ATIH CAN SUPPORT MORE GAMING MOUSE(EX: LOGITECH G500).
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Shhhh. Indoor voice. No need to shout at all of us. ;)
ç¥ºç« æž— wrote:JUST WANT TO SEE THE NEW VERSION OF ATIH CAN SUPPORT MORE GAMING MOUSE(EX: LOGITECH G500).
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I wish for a 2012 update to get it to work on Windows 8. What are the odds?
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David Barker wrote:I wish for a 2012 update to get it to work on Windows 8. What are the odds?
I'd say your odds are 100% against it happening--you can bet the house, the car, the kids, and all your savings on this. Acronis comes out with a new version yearly and the new ati version is out-- it's the W8 compatible version. ati2012 is history.
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Scott Hieber wrote:David Barker wrote:I wish for a 2012 update to get it to work on Windows 8. What are the odds?
I'd say your odds are 100% against it happening--you can bet the house, the car, the kids, and all your savings on this. Acronis comes out with a new version yearly and the new ati version is out-- it's the W8 compatible version. ati2012 is history.
What about this:
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Great if it happens. My guess is that they will test compatibility of existing code-- if it works, fine. I doubt that it will -- W8 has significant internal changes from W7. It'd be nice if Acronis has the resources to devote to recoding ati2012 but I personally doubt it.
Imo, ati 2013 is better product and worth the upgrade. I've found it to be much more reliable.
David Barker wrote:Scott Hieber wrote:David Barker wrote:I wish for a 2012 update to get it to work on Windows 8. What are the odds?
I'd say your odds are 100% against it happening--you can bet the house, the car, the kids, and all your savings on this. Acronis comes out with a new version yearly and the new ati version is out-- it's the W8 compatible version. ati2012 is history.
What about this:
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Hello!
Using the UR is complex and fails too often if you roll back to a different computer.
It would be a great improvement if the Acronis program would integrate ATIH Drive Manager partition that finds and reads aand save all the necessary device drivers to USB disk or some other media like CD. There is market separate programs like Driver Divider and Advanced Care System which makes these desired operation what I mean.
Another improvement is that ATIH would incöude more most important parts of the disk handling, ie for example, Resise partition, Delete Partition, Create Partition, etc. only few same needed functions as well Acronis Disk Director.
Aku
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