Can it work with RAID-0 or not ?

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Hello all out there :)

I hope this is the right spot to post, if not forgive me :(

I was(am) used to backup(clone) my hardisk with Ghost, that was going like this:
*Shutdown system
*insert Ghost floppy and start
*select originate HD/partition
*select destination HD/partition
* GO.. (and it was realy fast)

When i had a SERIOUS problem, i only had to do the same procedure
in reverse HD/partition sequence and i just took a cup of coffee( or stronger if it was realy stressy :P ) and al was back to normal.

But nów... i have a new system with 2x500Gb NEW disks in RAID-0 and REALY need a GOOD safety procedure like i had before.

Done some reading/research on internet and found Acronis, but to me its not clear if this can do a similar job like Ghost did.

I contacted 3 Acronis dealers here in the Netherlands (sorry im Dutch :P ) and asked them if Acronis is the solution for me before i buy.

All 3 !! stumbled over there words about if it was possible or NOT.. and came with... just try differant things...

answers that are NOT giving me a good feeling..
i must be SURE it can and WILL restore simple,
in case of problems.

So, please give me some GOOD information about:

IF.. Acronis has a good safety procedure somelike i had
(but now with RAID-0)
HOW is it called in Acronis (i am confused about the terms used :( )
WHAT is the way to go for?

* i have a USB 1Gb external to write to and store safely

Thanks alot in advance,

regards,

A Dutch guy :)

Sa, 03/05/2011 - 09:33
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Raid is irrelevant. Acronis doesn't care. It will image raid and non-raid. You will be creating your images inside Windows using Acronis. If you have a failure, you will be restoring the image from the bootable media. Here is where Acronis may or may not work, depending on your hardware. You need to Test your bootable media and make sure you can see 1) Your External Drive holding the Image 2) Your Raid Array. This shouldn't be a problem with Windows 7. With Windows XP, the Acronis bootable media may or may not have the driver necessary to see your Raid Array. You need to test your bootable media.

I suggest you read this thread before deciding to buy Acronis True Image:
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/15763

I've been using Acronis products for nearly a decade. My personal experiences with the newer Acronis 2010 and 2011 are not favorable. I find these products unreliable, bug laden and cumbersome. Others may have different opinions.

Sa, 03/05/2011 - 16:36
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To add to Marc's comments, the support of RAID depends as well on the type of RAID you are using. If you have set up your RAID in Windows (software RAID), you now have dynamic disks and you will need the Plus Pack to make it work. If you are using a hardware controller RAID (switch is done in BIOS), then you probably don't need the PP, but you have to use the trial to do as Marc's suggesting.

With the trial, you will find for yourself whether you like the product as well.

I am a user of several backup solutions. I didn't use previous versions of Acronis, so I am not complaining as much about the user interface change. In Acronis 2011, I find the core function (image backup, versionning, retention management and restore) unbeatable. Despite some annoying bugs in the current 2011, quirks in the design and idiosynchrasies proper to Acronis backup technology, the other functions can be helpful too on top of the core function.

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Thanx alot ppl for responding so fast..

In the mean while if done some reading trough the forum here...
and i must say it really gives me a bad feeling.

It looks like a random generator that dicides if it works or not...
for all programs that are NOT mend to do SAFETY issues, it is unwelcome

for a BACKUP-RECOVERY program...it is the worst you can get.. to my opinion.

But still when i try to find another GOOD backup program i get many hits for Acronis...

I also read about a PLUS pack that should be THE option for "most" problems...
if thát is the case.. NO problem, i buy that to..

but i HAVE to be sure NOT buying a russian roulette backup program
to find out its NOT working whén i NEED it.

Ok, i understand the system configuration AND the acronis version and even BUILD is realy important
here is some:

Asrock 890FX DeLuxe4 with RAID-0 in my BIOS
AMD Phenom II 955
2x2GB Corsair mem

2x Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA (new)
2x 1TB USB to backup to ( LaCie and a Toshiba)

Windows7, AVG etc etc (more info needed?? pls ask)

So, IS... there a Acronis type-version-release-build- etc etc that will give me a STABLE situation..

or will it stay like a russian roulette,
* download a trial (what to choose .. go for?? 7-8-9-10-11--2011 etc etc??)build: ???
*can it happen that this trail F### up my system.. remember i DONT have a backup !!... yet

and furter more...
I need a boot disk??
can that also be a BOOT Sd-card??

tnx alot again,

regards.

So, 03/06/2011 - 08:35
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Peter,

Remember people come here when they have a problem. They don't come when everything is working just fine. Vice versa, we are living in a world where companies know how to do marketing on the Web...

Anyhow...

One of the key issues is that a good backup should help you restore your computer after your disk died completely, regardless of the number of partitions, etc. The way ACronis does this is through a recovery CD that runs on Linux. Sometimes Linux drivers are a bit behind windows. This is why you have to try and make sure everything works just find on your machine.

Download the latest version 2011 build 6696. Install it. Create your bootable media on a DVD or a USB/sd-card (I boot on a SD card attached to a USB adapter, because my computer cannot boot on the multi-card reader).

Read Grover's True Image Guides, the help and the How to's(see left navigation panel on this forum). There is a lot of stuff to learn there.

Before you try anything, do a full disk and partition backup of your system disks. Validate it in Windows. Reboot on your new recovery CD, validate it on the recovery CD. Be aware that when you use the disk, the drive letters will be assigned differently from in windows. Mimic a restore process, just don't proceed at the last step.

Afterwards, you can create another backup and test incremental, differential, file backups. When you have this down, you can try non-stop backups, Try&Decice, even cloning (watch out with this one: many end-users errors).

Let me know how it goes. I can share with you my DO's and DONT's from my personal testing experience.

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Hi Peter.
I started with a similar configuration as yours - software RAID. I could backup in windows but could not backup or restore from the boot cd. It will see the raid as separate disks. Bought the plus pack - if you have enough knowledge to work with pre-install environments like the PP uses you probably don't need Acronis. If your using Seagate disks you definitely need a good backup. My solution was to get a hardware RAID controller - not those cheap host bus adaptors that are software RAIDs (like those on motherboards). With a hardware RAID Acronis, Windows, etc see the RAID as a single disk. You can back up from and restore to the RAID just like it was a single hard drive (in windows, dos, Linux, etc). The best value I have found is the LSI MegaRAID 9240-8i SAS RAID Controller (they support 600 MBps transfer rates and SSDs). You can find these on eBay listed under the IBM brand for around $75 for new pulls - they don't even bother to hide the LSI info on these cards (IBM ServeRAID M1015 SAS/SATA 8-PORT RAID CONTROLLER). I haven't had any RAID related problems since I changed - can't say I haven't had any problems with Acronis but that's a hundred different threads.

So, 03/06/2011 - 21:01
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