TI 2016 backup options are not saved
I started out with a backup where I specified incremental backups after the first full backups. I want to change that to create a full version after 10 incrementals. I update the backup options and turn on cleanup and click the SAVE button at the top of the page, but when the next backup runs, those changed options disappear.
I know I can create a new backup and delete the old one, but you shouldn't have to do that. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
My recommendation is always " if changes needed, start a new task". It is the quickest and easiest way to correct a problem.
The program cannot handle changes to configurations. Save yourself some time, create a new task.
You can use the task "clone settings" option which helps to simplify or speed things up but
each task needs a different name (name not reused), and I always recommend the target be a new sub-folder so there is no intermixing of backup files from different tasks. These are practices which I have found works. YOu're right, changing the settings should work but it doesn't so don't waste your time troubleshooting a task which is never rarely ever works following changes.
Ths link may be of interest.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/100416
I was wrong. I can't even create a new backup. Only thing I can think of is that once you save the settings as Initial settings, that's it. So the only option for me now is the first one I used which was Create only Incrementals after first full backup. This is not good. Only thing I can think of now is to uninstall the product, reinstall it and start over.
Huh?
Do you know how to configure and start a new Backup?
Do you know to rename the default Backup Name?
Yes...I know how to do both, but when I created a new Backup, since I had saved the original settings as the default, it keeps reverting back to those original settings, no matter what I change.
I did open a support ticket with Acronis about changing the settings and they said it is a known problem and that it should be fixed in the next update.
Thanks to everyone for the help.
The problem discussed by support has to do with having a custom name problem and a custom name is not required for a task to have the exact configuration you want it to have.
Each task is independant of any other.
Each task that you create can save the settings that you want.
I believe you would find it beneficial to spend some time creating custom tasks as shown in this example.
100416: Custom Backup Schemes --All recent versions
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/100416
96972: Bug: Custom Backup schemes cannot be custom named & function correctly.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/96972
I have the same problem. Its really annoying and makes the product extremely unhandy.
@ACRONIS: Please fix this bug in TI 2016 a.s.a.p. or you will loose customers!
Same problem.
I create a new backup: Entire disk; incremental; new full backup after 2 incremental; keep two version chains. It will not save these settings. If I try to close the ATI2016 window it advises that if I say YES I will lose the current settings. If I say NO then the backup shows the settings in the options but never runs.
I do SAVE the custom configuratiom. I have been using ATI since 2011 but this 2016 seems very buggy on an otherwise stable W10 machine. I have not yet had ATI 2016 do a single scheduled backup without errors. The BU disk is an external USB2 Western Dig 2 Tb that has been in service for over a year with no issues, and still working fine today.
Lionel,
Welcome to the learning curve of the new versions.
If I try to close the ATI2016 window it advises that if I say YES I will lose the current settings.
This warning is telling you that the the task is incomplete, you have not performed the save function to save the task.
If I say NO then the backup shows the settings in the options but never runs.
The task was never saved so no backup functions exist and cannot run.
Refer this link on saving new tasks each time you create a new task or anytime you get the warning message.
https://forum.acronis.com/system/files/forum/2014/11/71342/save_new_tas…
Item 2:
When creating a new backup scheme, use my GH12 as an example but with your settings of
Full plus 2 incrmentals; store 2 chains. (With that setting, automatic deletion begins after Full B3 [Backup #7] and after each full thereafter.
If you were assigning your own user name to the custom schemes, the saving of user assigned custome names does not work in this version,
but any basic custum scheme will work. This link will explaiin in more detail what works and what does not.
https://forum.acronis.com/forum/96972
item 3:
Any settings that you save will be saved within your backup task. If you want those same settings to be displayed the next time you open the backup scheme window for a new task, then click the "Save as default" in lower left corner of the "backup scheme" before saving the backup task.,
Other reference only links can be found at this link.
https://forum.acronis.com/forums/acronis-true-image-home-discussions/be…
Hi All,
Same Problem, Unfortunately the first time I created a new Custom Backup task (being brand new), I also checked save as default option as I went thru first set-up, so ANY new custom task has the same options as your first task with default options no matter what you do (or What you name it). I tried to uninstall ATI2016 in Win 10, NO good, same defaults come back, it's not fully uninstalled. The only way to fix the problem, I found was to TEAR ATI2016 out of the system using http://www.iobit.com/en/advanceduninstaller.php which is a FREE uninstaller then you can start ATI 2016 over as if it was never on your system before. I hope that helps some people, worked perfect for me!
steve1209,
The only purpose of checking the "Save as default" option (on the backup scheme display page) is to make the same scheme settings (perhaps a few others such as notification) appear the next time you want to create a new backup task. Any of the scheme settings can still be removed/added/changed. You can uncheck the option and settings will revert to whatever they were when the settings were saved. User can also click the "default settings" option and the backup scheme settings will revert to program default settings. The backup task must be saved in order for the "save as default" to take effect.
When you use the "save as default" option, you can undo that selection by checking the "initial settings" option which is very near
to the "save as default". An uninstall should not have been required but you are correct that using the TI Cleanup utility (item 4 inside my signature)
to clean out old settings will fix most issues.
Hey GroverH,
I learned something NEW tonight hopefully others did as well...
Thank You!
THANK YOU ALL! Yes, learn something new everyday, and today was a good one. Now it's working again. I did have to do the "tear it out" approach, annoying but worth the effort.
Great forum to have on hand.
steve1209,
The only purpose of checking the "Save as default" option (on the backup scheme display page) is to make the same scheme settings (perhaps a few others such as notification) appear the next time you want to create a new backup task. Any of the scheme settings can still be removed/added/changed. You can uncheck the option and settings will revert to whatever they were when the settings were saved. User can also click the "default settings" option and the backup scheme settings will revert to program default settings. The backup task must be saved in order for the "save as default" to take effect.
When you use the "save as default" option, you can undo that selection by checking the "initial settings" option which is very near
to the "save as default". An uninstall should not have been required but you are correct that using the TI Cleanup utility (item 4 inside my signature)
to clean out old settings will fix most issues.
Hi GroverH,
The only purpose of saving Options, is that it effects options for that particular Backup, only. It does not save your Comments, entered. Comments are not saved. And it does not remember Schedule. You need to Check Do not Schedule, for each New Full Backup created.
Hi thecreator,
The only purpose of saving Options, is that it effect options for that particular Backup.
Yes, I would concur as only the options which have been enabled will be saved as part of the task content. However, my point to steve was about the "save as default" and its purpose.
After you have configured your backup task with all its desired settings for that specific task, whether the "save as default" option is checked or unchecked will have zero bearing on what options are saved into the task. The options saved into the task will be those opitons which were checked before you checked the "save as default" button. Checking the "save as default" button will simply cause the enabled options to auto-reappear when the next new task is loaded for configuration & creation. Any of the options can be changed prior to saving the new task.
One major prohblem with the "save as default" opton is that there is no published info about which opitons will auto-reappear. User must test and find out for themselves. As you indiated, options such as schedule and comments will not appear in the re-appearance of the "save as default" being checked before.
However, if you have a task (scheduled or non-scheduled) and with comments which has been saved and is exactly what you want, it is possible to use the Task/clone settings options and the same schedule and the same comments WILL re-appear in the newly cloned task.
The comments will appear inside the comments option, but unfortuntely, the comments do not appear in the actual backup as comments are missing from the backup which is a bug awainting fixing.
An mportant note however it you choose to clone the task for use, do be sure and change the clone task name and the clone target folder, so duplicate names are not used, to prevent confusion by the program or the user.
Maybe I am min-interpreting your comments but I thought I would offer my understanding regarding the function of the "save as default" button.
I am a firm believer that in order for a task to work correctly, user edits or user changes should be avoided, except perhaps for schedule changes. This link provides more details.
Hi GroverH,
One major prohblem with the "save as default" opton is that there is no published info about which opitons will auto-reappear. User must test and find out for themselves. As you indiated, options such as schedule and comments will not appear in the re-appearance of the "save as default" being checked before.
However, if you have a task (scheduled or non-scheduled) and with comments which has been saved and is exactly what you want, it is possible to use the Task/clone settings options and the same schedule and the same comments WILL re-appear in the newly cloned task.
The comments will appear inside the comments option, but unfortuntely, the comments do not appear in the actual backup as comments are missing from the backup which is a bug awainting fixing.
An mportant note however it you choose to clone the task for use, do be sure and change the clone task name and the clone target folder, so duplicate names are not used, to prevent confusion by the program or the user.
Maybe I am min-interpreting your comments but I thought I would offer my understanding regarding the function of the "save as default" button.
Maybe I should have gone into more details, the first time.
On my Desktop Computers, I have Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3, 3 partitions containing Windows XP where I have Acronis True Image 2012 installed in one copy. I also have Windows 10 Pro 32-Bit and Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Build 10586 installed in other partitions across 3 Hard Drives in a single computer.
When I boot into one copy Windows XP HE, and start up Acronis True Image 2012, I can read the Comments added to Acronis True Image 2016 Backup, from when they were created. The Comments are indeed part of the Backups and are not missing, as you thought.
I only work with Full Backups, because it takes longer time to restore a partition, if the Hard Drive requires rebuilding.
What I do in order to create a new Backup, previously in Acronis True Image 2016 product, was to Load Acronis.
- Then I clicked on Add Backup.
- I deleted the proposed Backup Name and inserted the name I wanted for this Backup.
- Next I selected the Partition I wanted to Back up.
- Next was the Destination Folder to where to copy the Backup to.
- Then I clicked on the Options for the Backup I was creating.
- It does not Remember that I don't Schedule a Backup, so I need to Dot Do not schedule and then I clicked on Backup Scheme, where it does remember the Backup Scheme I use.
- Next I click on Advanced. In Advanced, I check all settings and it does remember all settings I use, except for Comments, which is fine, because I change the Comments from Build to Build, because of the operating system's programs being upgraded.
- I do check as Save as Default.
- I use the highest compression and the speed in which it backs up / the Priority is High.
- Before I start Acronis I always use the Firewall, to Lock Down the Computer, so nothing changes.
- And I have Acronis Shutdown the Computer after Validating the Backup.
I don't do Incremental Backups at all. It may be faster in creating an Incremental Backup, but it is very slow to restore. I don't mess with Incremental Backups.
That's it.
I restoring a Backup, I boot into a different partition to Run Acronis from. Much faster than using the Bootable Rescue CD., plus I can be either checking something on the Internet, before starting to Recover, as well as Watching TV. :)
As far as Comments, go, the Comments are part of the Backups, but Acronis can't read the Comments. When recovering / restoring a Backup in the past, Acronis True Image Home 10, Acronis True Image 2012 and a friend as Acronis True Image 2014 owns, can read the Comments in previously created Backups, before recovering / restoring the Backup. Acronis True Image 2015 and 2016 can't. When redesigning the program from Acronis True Image 2014, the Developers forgot about that ability to read Comments when restoring a Backup.