Off site (cloud?) backup options with ATI
I'm thinking about keeping offsite backups and want to understand what my options are.
I have a standard license (3 PC) for ATI 2018. On the "Account" page of the ATI GUI I'm given the opportunity to try or buy Acronis Cloud Storage, but all Acronis promotional doc I've seen either states or implies that cloud storage is available only for Advanced or Premium subscriptions. If I chose to get ACS via the ATI GUI would I have to switch over to a subscription at some point?
To be useful I would want to do a 20GB backup daily, 400GB weekly, and an occasional 2TB copy of my local .tib files (which would replace the 400GB backup but not the 20GB backup). That's a lot of storage. I think I would need a Premium license which is not really in my budget. Am I missing an Acronis option?
On the other hand, I assume I could use some other cloud storage services (which are also probably not in my budget) to keep copies of my ATI backups and, as long as I have a Windows environment that can access the cloud services, I could get my .tib files downloaded on a local drive. I could then use the normal ATI recovery medium to rebuild my "real" system.
Have I missed something obvious?
It might help in your decision making to test out the upload/download speed to Acronis Cloud Datacenter for your Region. Look at this Knowledge Base article KB59690
Thanks for both your responses. The speed issue is why I had not looked into this before. Interesting that the download speed reported by the Acronis speed test (using the Ashburn, VA Acronis datacenter) is much less than the speed of reported by the publicly available Ookla tests - ~30 Mbps vs. ~80 Mbps. (But download speed shouldn't usually be important.) My upload speed of around 6 Mbps. Completely impractical for the full backup uploads. Guess I'd better look into somewhere to keep off-site disk drives.
The good news is that I don't have to worry about upgrading my Acronis licenses. :-)
Yeah, the cloud upload is usually the killer (although downloading a full image can be slow too). The good thing though is that once it has taken care of the first full upload, it's incrementals for life (essentially - same concept but an Acronis proprietary backup scheme that only backs up delta changes). As a result, they typically go much faster unless you've changed the disk signature (like a recent recovery or partitioned the disk). In that regard, it would be more efficient than copying a full .tib file to say onedrive or another Cloud storage provider every time. I am using Cloud as my third and final stop for recovery (if need be). However, my go to is the other internal drive that does automatic backups. My next step (if need be) is an offline external usb drive that is stored in a fire safe on the other side of the house (I also have another online backup to a NAS, but let's assume both online options are defunct because of malware or something). And if that offline backup is destroyed or fails, then I fall back to the cloud - slow, but at least it's there if I had to use it.
I use cloud backup for most of my systems - fortunately most are stable so only the initial backup is slow. I am on 100/2.6MBps cable and I need to carefully consider when initial backup is made. I have used recovery from the cloud several times and it works well. Rather than do a complete download it appears to only download files that are different and delete one on local drive that are not in the backup. It would take considerably longer if you do a bare metal restore.
For me the Cloud is secondary backup; my first line of defence is backup to my NAS.
Ian
I have a hodgepodge configuration. 2 PCs (a much used one I'll call PC-1 and a seldom used one I'll call PC-2), a laptop, and a NAS containing shared files (Call it NAS-1.). The primary backups for the PC are on locally attached external drives. A daily backup of the NAS is also taken to the local external drive (Call it EXT-1.) on the more used PC. The primary backup for the laptop goes to another NAS. (Call it NAS-2.) There is a non-Acronis process (a Western Digital "Safepoint" processing) that copies NAS-1 to NAS-2. And just to be safe, every week or 2 I take an FTP copy of EXT-1 to yet another NAS. (Call it NAS-3.)
NAS-1 contains all the files I use daily and installation files for all the 3rd party software installed on the 3 computers.
If need be, I could rebuild PC-2 from scratch or do without it altogether. As long as I had the files from NAS-1 (which has backups on EXT-1, NAS-2, and NAS-3) I could survive using a rebuilt PC-1 but it would be much quicker to do a full recovery using ATI.
I can recover from drive failure in PC-1, PC-2, and NAS-1 without too much trouble. Unfortunately, EXT-1, NAS-1, and NAS-2 sit right next to each other on my desk. NAS-3 is about a foot away. There's something wrong with this plan. I can possibly put NAS-3 on a wireless bridge and move it to a more secure part of my house but that's not much of an improvement.
And recovery of the laptop is totally dependent on NAS-2. I could move its critical files to NAS-1 but sometimes the laptop's lap takes it out of the house. Hmm. I could put a backup of those critical files on NAS-1.
It sounds like I need some sort of offsite backup (or physically and environmentally secure onsite backup) for the laptop's critical data (if not the whole system) and for NAS-1.
Sorry to babble on the forum, but going over this in writing has made things a bit clearer in my head.
Hi, the Acronis Cloud is not reliable , i lost twice my datas ,
one after the Update 6027 , (ticket 02614891)which destroyed my synch, had to restart from scratch!
Last summer in August during 10 days the Acronis cloud server unreachable "message 500 "acronis cloud server not available,( ticket 03065131)
"message 500 "acronis cloud server not available, on a eu des migrations du plateforme Cloud , c'est un souci temporaire. Veuillez nous excuser s'il vous plait." ("we had cloud migration server problems, temporary worry, please excuse us for that...!!")
Last: metadata corruption, one of the only two folders i synch to Acronis Cloud wasnt reachable on the cloud(same ticket)
still waiting for the quick fix by the experts, to restore that folder on Acronis Cloud since 9/12/2017
but my cloud subscription has expired the 8/28/2017 and today 1 month later all my data on the cloud has been deleted even if i had warned them about my cloud ending period the 8/22/2017 !!!(they didnt care about extending it , until the cloud corruption has been fixed!!!)
So now i bought the ATI2018 perpetual and suscribed to idrive 1tb for 7$ with discount
ps : i dont use cloud for pc backup upload is only 1mb/s at home
edit : 1 month +1 day after cloud ending period, i have a reply "the data are fixed" are they kidding me??
Is "ctrl+alt+sup" or "DEL" a fix ? (dark humour)