Universal restore wrecks my USB drive
When I attempt to use true image 2021 universal restore to create a bootable USB drive it kills my drive. I have been able to get 2 back but 2 no longer will be recognized by any computer. Am I making wrong choices when I am going through the wizard? I have an ASUS q200e and am going to an ASUS q406d. Both are running windows 10. Is there a better way to do bookable media then on a usb?
Hey Ian, thanks for the reply. So I had forgot, but you are correct that the 200e had came with Win 8. Both computers now run win 10. The 200 has an intel Core i3, and the new one has an AMD Ryzen 5, and yes it is a Q406DA. The disk is a SanDisk SD9SN8W256G1102. I attempted to run the rescue bootable media, not the universal restore usb, and nothing appears to be happening other then the ASUS start screen and the thinking sign, or the circle chasing itself. Im sure there is a technical term for that but I am not a real tech wizard, haha. I shut the computer off, took out the USB, and it rebooted from the main disc back to what it was. But I have no clue what to do next. The last time I did this, however many years ago it was, it seemed to be easier. That or I just lucked out and somehow it worked.
I should probably also mention that my plan was to clone my old computer.
Michael, thanks for the additional information.
I had assumed that your intention was to clone the old PC to the new one.
Having a bit of trouble tracking down the specifications for the SanDisk SD9SN8W256G1102, but it appears to be an NVMe M.2 drive. Coupled with the move from an Intel to AMD CPU this explains why you are facing the problem that you are.
Once you have activated windows on the new computer, restore a backup of the old computer to the new computer. This is where things get murky.
Another complicating factor is that is possible that the two PC have different BIOS mode. The new one will be using UEFI (not BIOS/Legacy), which means it boots using the Windows boot manager, and there need to be a UEFI partition.
We need to establish if the old PC uses UEFI or BIOS/Legacy. For information on how to find out if it is UEFI or BIOS/Legacy have a look here.
I need some time to find the thread that I mentioned in my earlier post - not great at searching the Forum
Ian
Hi Ian, both Computers are uefi, so at least that part doesn't have to be worked around. One other thing that i will mention, because I don't know if it affects anything. The new computer only has 238 gb and the old has 456 GB. But only 125 GB are being used.
Sorry about the delay in responding. I have been out of action with a shonky knee which goes ballistic if i sit at the desk for more than 10 minutes.
I think you need to load the AMD raid drivers when using the recovery media; to inject the drivers you will need to use the MVP Tool - CUSTOM ATI WINPE BUILDER. You can download it by clicking on "MVP User Tools and Tutorial" under "useful links" on the right of the page.
I hope someone else will be able to help you out as I probably will be out of action for a day or two.
Ian
Michael, is there a strong reason why you are wanting to bring the installed OS from your older PC to the new one?
Most migrations that we deal with in these forums tends to be within the same processor family, i.e. Intel to Intel, or AMD to AMD, where the change in hardware is typically handled by the Windows OS discovering that new hardware on booting.
Given your older PC is Intel and the new one is AMD Ryzen, then this does become more complicated and is a scenario that I have never needed to deal with personally. (All of my own systems are Intel by choice).
Does you new AMD PC come with Windows installed?, if so, then I would suggest installing ATI 2021 on that PC and then creating the 'Simple' rescue media on it too, so that the media picks up the correct device drivers that will be needed. You could also create a copy of the Universal Restore media on the AMD PC too to have just in case it is needed.
Personally, I would probably make a clean start with the new AMD PC, reinstall the main applications I use and use ATI to bring over my user data instead of bringing the old OS install.
Hey Ian, thanks for the help. I hope your knee gets feeling better. Steve, I don't necessarily need to do a mirror image from my old computer to the new one. I was just thinking that it would be the quickest and easiest way to keep everything that I had on my old computer without losing something or having to figure out how to get everything to work again. Obviously that has not been the case. I never knew that there would be so many problems just because of the different chip manufacturers. And of course nothing on the acronis website says anything about the difficulties of transfering between computers with different chip manufacturers. The new computer does have Windows 10, and I may just have to try your suggestion. This is getting pretty deep for my skill level, unfortunately.
Michael, thankyou for the good wishes.
And of course nothing on the acronis website says anything about the difficulties of transfering between computers with different chip manufacturers.
It is only recently that we have seen instances of people moving from Intel to AMD based systems. The need for guidance has only become "urgent" in the last few months. Part of the problem is a simultaneous move from SATA to M.2 NVMe drives. It makes my head hurt. Or that may just be the Covid-19 shot I got yesterday.
Ian
One option, if available, would be to do the migration from SATA to NVMe M.2 on the source PC before attempting to migrate to the new AMD PC.
If the Intel PC doesn't have or support NVMe, then you could consider installing a temporary SATA drive in the AMD PC and migrate to that, thus taking the SATA to NVMe migration out of the equation until after the new PC is working fine from the SATA drive!
Touch of taking smaller bites rather than attempting the whole banquet at once!
Thanks for your replies, guys. I must confess I am feeling a little overwhelmed by how to do any of this stuff though. How would I go about seeing if I can convert SATA to the NVME on my source computer?
Michael, the first check is: does your source computer have any PCIe NVMe card slots? If not, then you cannot do this.
See webpage: M.2 and NVMe SSDs: What are they and how do they benefit your PC? - which will show you what these devices look like and thus what slot they need to be plugged into.
Also webpage: How to Install an NVMe M.2 SSD Hard Drive and Why You Should - which has images of the motherboard slot used by these card drives.
These drives look very similar to a memory DIMM card but with the connector at the short end of the card.
If your source computer is a few years old, then it is unlikely to support this new type of drive as they are relatively 'new'.
oof, this is going way beyond where i can go with it. If it is the only way around it I am probably better off just migrating my data over piecemeal.
Michael, if your new PC comes with an installed copy of Windows 10 then my personal recommendation (and practice) would be to activate that new OS then install only the programs / applications that I need, along with bringing across my user data (documents etc). This way you can make a clean start without carrying over years of accumulated 'stuff' from your old PC, taking advantage of the new clean OS.
You can also run both PC's for a time while you ensure that everything is running as wanted and nothing has been forgotten etc.
Thanks again Steve, and Ian. I think I will go ahead with the last suggestion. It will definately help to do a little "spring cleaning" on my computer.