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Access to Secure Zone .tib files?

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Is it possible to access .tib files in the Acronis Secure Zone, for example to copy them to removable media? If so, how?

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From within ati you can explorer the tibs.
But, the whole point of the SZ if to prevent that sort of thing. It's a nonstandard disk partition that most software won't recognize. This is why most of us don't use it but instead, if extra security is needed, we keep backups on a separate hdisk that can be stowed separately from the pc. ;) Also, if you are using the SZ because you have only one hdisk, be forewarned that, if you hdisk goes bad, then you will not have any access to the SZ -- do yourself a favor and get a second hdisk.

Also, see p. 172 of the userguide

http://www.acronis.com/support/documentation/index.html

Thanks Scott.

"From within ati you can explorer the tibs." 
How?  I presume from within "Tools and utlilities", but I can't find where?

I understand the rest of your response.  Given the issues wrt backing up to a NAS drive I'm planning to backup to the ASZ and copy .tibs from there to the NAS for further security.  I can't get to see the .tib files though!

Cheers.

Wouldn't it be simpler to just make a standard partition on your PC to copy tibs from? As SH sez the point of the SZ is to make mucking with the tibs hard to do, to protect them.

I advise you against creating the Secure Zone. It's really meant as a sub-optimal method of backup for people who have no external target to which to backup. If your drive fails, you would lose your system, files, and your Secure Zone backups.

It's much better and safer to make backup images to an external hard drive.

Also, in the past there were occasonal reports of the Secure Zone causing problems to the system. When I installed Secure Zone on one PC, it corrupted the hard drive causing data loss and rendering the system unbootable. Perhaps the latest versions of Secure Zone are improved, but that experience coupled with its inherent insecurity and lack of reduncancy cause me to be wary of Secure Zone.

Good point tomf. If access to the .tib files is dificult by desing - and you guys have made me realise it is - then what you suggest is the way to go. Thanks.

I don't agree w/tuttle in that I don't believe it's "meant as a sub-optimal backup for...no external target". IMO it's one way to have an automatic, PROTECTED place on your PC to send scheduled backups, e.g. to another (secondary) internal drive would be best. But you have to really know what you're after when you set it up, and for sure if you do set it up to the same drive as the partition you're backing, then it's yes sub-optimal at best.

I'd say on a family PC where you have who-knows-WHAT taking place w/different members, the ASZ has a place perhaps. But if it's one's own PC and one knows the ins/outs of .tib file backup, then the ASZ maybe makes things unnecessarily complex. I have one on one of my PCs for grins, and it works, but I tend to forget about it!

The SZ can suit some very special purposes and, indeed, some experienced users have used SZs for special application. It's utility for most users is outweighed by the shortcomings already mentioned above.

I still think, even in the special cases, one would be better off with a separate detachable hdrive instead of a secure zone. If you have multiple users, I'd recommend each having their own separate backup drive. Drives are cheap, replacing your hair after your hdisk with the system and the SZ goes wonky.

The SZ is indeed a leftover from earlier versions where Acronis was trying to provide a backup target for laptop users that didn't have two drives (and drives were more expensive back then)-- this was how it was first advertized. Acronis has never thrown away a feature it spent resources acquiring or developing. The SZ is also where Acronis first develop the backup-file-management that it later applied outside of the SZ -- it broke out in version ATI10 back a half dozen years ago.