Backup to TIB
Hello
In the XP days I would make a TI 2009 clone of each company computer and put those hard drives into storage for emergency.
We replaced those workstations. I now have HP Elite computers machine names Accent 1 through Accent 11 with TI 2013 installed on Windows 7 Pro. I am reading the articles, forums, manual to learn best backup strategy. I understand that the best disk and partition backup is an image, a TBI.
In this situation would I take to each computer a 1TB USB Hard drive that will hold all the TBI backups from all the workstations and then to boot with the Acronis 2013 Boot CD?
I would then do a backup on each computer –one computer from Accent 1 to Accent 11- and those backups would be named Accent1.TBI, Accent2.TBI and so on. This would be one full backup. No incremental, no differential. I say that because I do a daily folder data backup on all the computers saving their documents and their email pst files to a USB device.
Hello
In the XP days I made a TI 2009 clone of each company computer and put those into storage for emergency.
We replaced the workstations. I now have HP Elite computers Accent 1 through Accent 11 with TI 2013 installed. I am reading the articles, forums, manual to learn. I understand that best disk and partition backup is an image, a TIB.
The understanding in this situation would be to take to each computer a 1TB USB Hard drive and then to boot with the Acronis 2013 Boot CD. I would then do a backup on each computer – and those backup would be named Accent1.TIB, Accent2.TIB and so on. This would be one full backup. No incremental, no differential. All the workstations TIB files on one hard drive.
I say that because I do a daily folder data backup on all the computers their documents and their email pst files.
If I am on track - let’s say I had a catastrophic failure at a workstation, Accent 1. I would remove the failed hard drive – and insert a new hard drive. I would then use the Acronis Boot CD – and then from that 1TB backup hard drive I would locate the Accent1.TIB – and then restore? This is where I am confused – thus the old habit of cloning.
Thanks for any assistance !
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This is MBR environment.
Let me ask this. Let's say I am extra cautious - I create a Disk and Partition TIB Backup to one small 300 GB hard drive. I then as a precaution do another Disk and Partition TIB Backup to a 1 TB hard drive. Now I have two full image backups.
I can then following your instructions from the Clone article - remove from the computer the original full hard drive. I then insert a new empty hard drive into the computer. The original hard drive is externally connected. From the Acronis Boot CD I can then Clone the external original hard drive to the newly inserted hard drive knowing I have two Disk and Partition Backups for protection.
What I need to know is there another choice? This is my confusion. If I have a new hard drive placed into the computer - can I use the TIB Backup instead of cloning? The intent is two have two hard drives for each workstation. One is placed into a safe area for emergency.
If so I would need a link to the article that would allow me to restore from the external hard drive source holding the TIB files - a full and complete restore to the new hard drive that was placed in the computer.
Thanks!
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Chuck McReynolds wrote:This is MBR environment.
Let me ask this. Let's say I am extra cautious - I create a Disk and Partition TIB Backup to one small 300 GB hard drive. I then as a precaution do another Disk and Partition TIB Backup to a 1 TB hard drive. Now I have two full image backups.
I can then following your instructions from the Clone (Backup and Restore) article - remove from the computer the original full hard drive. I then insert a new empty hard drive into the computer. The original hard drive is externally connected. From the Acronis Boot CD I can then Clone (Restore the backup) of the external original hard drive to the newly inserted hard drive knowing I have two Disk and Partition Backups for protection. True Image definition of cloning is the direct copying of one disk onto another disk with no backup file involved.What I need to know is there another choice? This is my confusion. If I have a new hard drive placed into the computer - can I use Restore or recover the TIB Backup instead of cloning? Yes The intent is two have two hard drives for each workstation. One is placed into a safe area for emergency.
If so I would need a link to the article that would allow me to restore from the external hard drive source holding the TIB files - a full and complete restore to the new hard drive that was placed in the computer.
Thanks!
You have a choice of two methods to create a copy of the original.
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The TrueImage cloning method.
click on signature link 1 below and review index itm 3-RR
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or the TrueImge Backup and Restore Backup method.
Restore method covered in signature link 3 below, Index item #2 Disk option restore within that link.
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If backup created within Windows, choose the "Switch to disk mode" option.
If backup created via the TI recovery CD, check mark the "disk" option as to what is to be included within the backup which is everything--all partitions.
The 2014 Web help section along left margin can be very helpful.
You should test both methods for your own peace of mind.
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Hello
I removed the original hard drive from the computer. I replaced with original hard drive with a new hard drive. I followed the instructions to the letter. If one fails to follow the very specific instructions there will be mistakes.
With the new hard drive in the computer and the Disk and Partition Recovery attached as external USB device I began the restore. I did this on two computers.
When I finished this happened on both computers: missing bootmgr message. I elected to proceed with the Windows 7 CD and went into Command Line. After applying the BootFix I was able to run Windows 7 and log into the network.
I did this twice on those two computer outlined above. The difference was in the first recovery I followed your instructions after ( thank God for this) arranging the Columns.
I chose the OS Partition and after that finished I choose the MBR. The second run I click on 'Disk 1' with all selected.
This experiment gave me confidence knowing what to expect by following the details exactly. The only surprise was the missing Bootmgr.
What I found on both computer is that I have no small system partition. That is illustrated on page two of TIH2012 Backup. Attached is the results I have on both computers. One C Drive with what is listed. The computes are both running perfectly with their new larger hard drives. I keep rebooting, looking, making certain - that way the workers won't run into any unexpected issues come work day. Thus I can possibly leave the hard drive without the System area - unless it is essential to have a allocated System area. If so how can this be done? Thanks for the support and the very informative articles presented in this thread.
PS I then went into the second experiment an made a clone. Now I have two backups - the TIB restore and the clone.
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Chuck,
Did you boot from the Cloned disk to make sure it booted.
Which guide did you use as a reference?
Would you post a Windows Disk Management screen graphical view capture of the old disk.
If you assume they are all alike, you can use any of the computers as I want to see how many partitions, their type and how positioned.
First, you should not have had all the trouble restoring. It should have been basically as easy as the clone was.
I am assuming the troubles you experience was due to your not being familiar with the Acronis process. I thought your goal was to replicate your existing systems which would include restoring all partitions.
let start with the backup. The type backup you need a "disk image" or a "disk mode" image. This is illustrated in the very first picture of signture link 2 below.
Most Windows 7 system has a unlettered recovery partitons which when properly restored, (right position and right size), you should be able to boot up on first try without the aid of the Windows CD.
If you had all the required partitions within your backup, you should had more than just C to restore. The Restore of only C was what caused you all the extra time and effort and not part of a routine recovery.
After I see your screen capture, I will offer a couple more suggestion regarding the guides.
You should plan on redoing the restore from backup test again and you can use the same test disk as before fater it is wiped clean of its existing data.
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I will follow up with the work as suggested tomorrow.
I have one disk from the restore; and I have one disk - a clone of the restore. The restored disk when I first booted gave a missing bootmgr message. I then simply loaded the Windows 7 CD and ran the fixboot from the command line. Windows upon the reboot launched. I then tested the clone and Windows launched. I put back into the computer the restored disk image hard drive. That's when I noticed the missing system area.
Considering the results I obviously made a miscalculation. It may be in (2.Grover's How to...) #2 Disk Mode. I will start the process all over using the original hard drive and make a Disk and Partition Backup again - and start the work fresh.
Thanks!
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Do let me see the Windows disk Management capture of the old disk and when restoring, do be sure to check the "Recover disk signature" as mentioned in all my guides. This option is on the same screen as where the target disk is selected.
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The computer that needs to be restored I can do so this weekend.
If I understand for a successful restore it depends on the backup. In the instructions 'switch to disk mode' is the key to the backup. I will backup 'system reserved' and 'C Drive'.
The past mistake was failing to switch to disk mode. When I did the restore that restore was missing the system reserved.
Attached is the capture of the hard drive.
Thanks!
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Yes. The best restore procedure for you to use is the Signature link 3, item 2--Disk image recovery.
Do be sure and do the "Recover disk signature" found on the same screen as where the target disk is selected.
If you are using the same test disk over, then do the TI "Add new disk" routine as discussed in the guide.
Selecting the "switch to disk mode" option will cause the program to automatically include all partitons on the disk so all you have to do is assure that your system disk is checkmarked for inclusion.
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