Can a backup task be started from explorer?
I want to backup several machines from my Android tablet using PC Monitor. If I can create a task or cmd file I can execute it from PC Monitor.
At one time I used TI with the Windows task scheduler so the machine would wake, make a backup, then go back to sleep but I cannot find the information I used. No search function in the fourm.
It seems like the TI script file had to be renamed and an task (Windows task scheduler) it would then wake the machine and run the task.
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Thanks, I should have mentioned I am using TI 2009 on these computers. I really hate to spend the money on new software when the old works so well. I did update two of my machines to 2013, and I like 2009 better. Probably because I know it...
Do you know where I can find the information?
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Look to see if 2009 allows creation of desktop shortcuts for tasks. I didn't use 2009, and I don't recall when that feature was introduced. If 2009 doesn't allow it, I can dig out my notes of how to manually locate task names and create scheduled tasks to run them. What OS are you on, because it was considerably more challenging running them in Vista, though I did do it.
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Window 7. The tasks are located in the hidden directory of Program Data\Acronis\scripts. 2009 does not allow a task to be placed on the desktop - as far as I know.
I remember having to rename them (extension) but I do not remember what to. Then added it to Windows Task Scheduler to run. This would wake the machine, run the backup, then go back to sleep after the sleep time out.
The machines are media PC's and are in sleep mode most of the time and do not go into sleep automatically. I do not want to run the back while the machine is in play back mode, they are too weak to run the backup and play 1080p flies.
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Jim,
Version 2010 was the first version to provide support for Windows 7.
If you want help with shortcuts for version 2009 or before, click the top line of my signature below and locate index item 3-Q.
yes, 2013 is a completely different animal but 2013 is necessary for the newer hardware.
A 2013 backup can be started
1. via a schedule
2. Clicking the option "backup up now" from inside the program.
3. Optionally, After the shortcut is created from within the specific backup task, a desktop shortcut is created and the backup can be manually initiated by clicking the desktop shortcut. Check out figure 19 from inside this link below. Look for the shortcut example there. Once you click upon the create shortcut option, a desktop shortcut will be created with the same name as the task and a backup will be initiated based on the options create within the specific task. The link below covers a lot of help in a lot of different areas.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/28705
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Grover, I am aware of most all the functions of TI 209/2013, but by no means an expert. My objective is to wake the machine, complete the backup and put it back to sleep using TI 2013 or for that matter 2009. At one time I used 2009 to create the backup task, the script was then added to the Windows Task Manage to do just as I want, it worked well. I cannot find that information now. I remember renaming the script extension but cannot remember what to. It did rely on the Windows sleep timer to put the machine back to sleep.
I updated TI for all media PC's to TI 2013. I can create desktop icon to start the backup. I've pined this on the start menu - all is fine to there.
The media PC's have nothing showing on the desktop, just a clean screen. They have BRD attached for disk playback, SageTV is used as a DVR, music is played with SageTV (on another machine) or SoftSqueeze using Squeezebox Server (on another machine).
The interface must be kept "clean" because my family is not computer smart... They have problems using the Harmony One remote...
I use PC Monitor (Android app) to monitor all the machines on the home network. Two of the machines are on 24/7 and run backups using the TI scheduler. The media PC's cannot run a 1080p video and run a backup at the same time. The media PC's are configured to never go to sleep, they are placed in sleep mode when the TV, etc. are turned off using the remote. I've not tried this with 2013 but with 2009 it caused the video to shudder badly - unwatchable.
Using PC Monitor I can launch a task configured in the Windows Task Manager, I also have an option of using PowerShell and terminal mode. I have tried to launch the 2013 desktop task using all three and the only thing that happens is it opens True Inage to the task screen, it does not start the backup task.
I can RDP into the machine and click the backup icon and it will start the backup - easy.
My goal is to use PC Monitor to do the same without using RDP. PC Monitor allows me to wake the machine, run a task, and sleep the machine from one application, three button pushes. The real plus is when the machine is again turned on for media play back there is not login screen as with RDP. I usually restart the machine so there is no login screen to confuse them.
So unless TI 2013 can wake the machine, run the task and put it back asleep then I have wasted my money. This does not seem impossible and I am sure I am not the only one in the world who wants the backups done in the wee hours of the morning and going back into sleep mode when the backup is finished, instead of during working/playing/viewing hours. I only backup these media PC's on a monthly basis, not much if anything changes on them.
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Jim Brandon wrote:I have tried to launch the 2013 desktop task using all three and the only thing that happens is it opens True Inage to the task screen, it does not start the backup task.
Did you create a desktop shortcut for a particularl backup task? That is different from the usual default desktop shortcut to launch the application.
If you did, try launching it as administrator to see if that makes a difference.
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Yes, the only user on the network has admin privileges.
I've found a work around, solution - but new issue arises.
I can run a post command to put the computer back to sleep - works fine on my office desktop.
On the media PC's no option to wake the computer to make the backup. Looking into that now, hopefully it is a bios issue or the state of sleep used on the machines.
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Got it figured out and working the way I want...
In order to sleep the machine after backup a post command must be used as follows: rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState 0,1,0
This is placed in the Pre/Post commands of the TI task as a post command.
The other issue of waking the machine was in the power settings under sleep, allow wake timers which on these machines was disabled.
With the sleep timers enabled and the post command above the machine will wake, run the backup and go back t sleep.
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Glad you have it working.
Windows task scheduling should be able to wake the machine but I am not totally certain that TrueImage Task scheduling can do this reliably.
You may find it necessary to put your post power commands into a batch/command file and have the post command execute the bat/command file.
Nice job and thanks for sharing the information.
Grover
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