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Hi. In the past I have had problems with doing a clone of my main hdd that had a linux partition (dual boot). I had an issue where the MBR was overwritten and GRUB became lost. That turned out to be a real mess.

I have read, in a couple of posts on this forum, that in order to avoid problems, it is better to run a clone operation with Acronis from a recovery cd as opposed to running it from the windows program.

Before I load another linux partition and GRUB, I would like to know why doing a clone of a disk with Acronis with the recovery cd would be safer than doing it from the windows interface.

Thank You
Tom

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When you start the operation within windows, windows reboots and the win boot manager loads ATI's version of linux, under which ati runs the cloning operation. simpler is to boot directly into linux with the ati bootCD, and perform the clone and not involve the boot manager at all.

Linux doesn't necessarily assign drive letters the same way windows does! When cloning Be absolutely sure you know which hdisk you are cloning onto or you could clone your blank disk onto your system disk. You'd be surprised at how many folks write in saying ati made my Windows disk disappear and what they've done is clone an empty disk onto their system disk.  This is one reason that it's better to make a backup and not a clone, you'd at worst be adding a backup file to the target harddisk, and that's nondestructive.. Also you can store only one clone on a hdisk but can have many backup files, so if one byte goes bad in a backup, you still have others to rely on.

Also, be sure you remove one of the hdisks after cloning and before booting into windows or only one of them will be bootable -- windows will not tolerate two active partitions and will mark nonactive. So, if you clone a system disk and leave both on the machine when you reboot, you wasted a lot of time and, worse, don't have a bootable backup of your system disk.

Scott,

That was a fantastic reply to my post. It made a lot of things clear.

Yes, I know about not being able to boot when two identical (cloned) disks are in the system. I generally have to go into the BIOS and select the disk that I want to boot from...it will work properly then.

I think that I will take your advice about switching from a clone to a backup, and I think that you mean "sector by sector" backup. I did not think about the fact that the clone could be rendered useless by a bad byte in a critical sector. I suppose that I was blinded by the overall ease of recovering my system with a clone as opposed to a backup.

Let me just ask this one question, which may be very simple to answer. Lets say that my main disk with the MBR goes bad. If I have an Acronis recovery CD and a SBS backup of the primary active partition (on some other drive), then theoretically all that I would need is a new blank HDD and I could be up and running again fairly quickly, without having to reload the operating system(s). Is that correct?

Thank You
Tom

Easiest way is may a full disk backup. Then restore full disk including disk signature and MBR. If restoring to diff size disk, then refer to userguide or grover's guides

May I ask for one final clarification?

"Easiest way is may a full disk backup."

Do you mean a full "sector by sector backup?

Thank You
TOm

No. You almost never want to do that.

Scott,

"Then restore full disk including disk signature and MBR."

I will assume that standard "disk backup" under Acronis, will back up "disk signature" and the MBR automatically? I looked for switches under the "advanced" tab but found non relating to the above. Perhaps you are referring to an option during a "restore" operation.

Thank you again for all of your help.

Tom

Tom,

If you have time for some research reading, here is a couple links which I believe you will find helpful.
How to backup version 2012--
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/28705

My Backup & Restore Guides.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/29618

Scott mentioned my guides and the above is a couple examples. After the above, if you have more reading time, look at index topic #3 in my signature index below.

Thank You Grover, very, very much for the link and the effort. I have glanced through the pdf and seen that there is much to be learned from it.

Good Job.

Tom