Settings backup
When a settings backup is done what is saved, are the backups in the list saved? If I then have to uninstall and reinstall and restore the backedup settings should my backups list be as it was when backed up ? Thanks
Hopefully, not necessarily because the actual backup files might have, are likely to have changed in the meantime.
I have attached two screen captures. The original_backup.jpg is the list from TI 2013 on my main system, it shows a couple of the backups on the list. I then booted to another system on my machine and imported the backup to another installation of TI 2013 and did another capture of the results, shown in imported_backup.jpg. First of all the imported results that show up are missing the restore icon. In order to restore the icon you have to click on the location info on the list for an item and when the explorer window opens double click on the backup file to complete the info on the list so it matches the original_backup.jpg. Secondly there are many backups listed on the original_backup.jpg that are on a different machine or not presently installed on the main system and they do not appear on the imported list. Would appreciate any assistance with this problem.
Norman,
There are 2 distinct things:
a) the backup settings: what to backup, where to back it up, the backup name, the scheme, the schedule, etc.
b) the backup files and how they are tracked by the internal ATI database
If you import backup settings into another ATI installation, there is no existing database for ATI to look up any information. So ATI will set up tasks according to the settings. At this point, none of these backups will have run from the point of the view of that new installation, therefore you cannot restore.
As you launch ATI, it will scan for existing backup files (unless the scan is turned off) and try its best to match the backup files to the tasks.
After this process, there is a high chance you will have duplicate entries. Some coming from your imported settings, some from the scanned files. If for any reason you have modified some backup file names in the process, there is no database for ATI to piece the archives series back together into a coherent succession of task executions, notwithstanding the fact that changes tend to confuse the database anyway.
Thanks. The problem is that ATI is constantly breaking and I have to remove and reinstall. I have 20 - 30 backups and manually reinserting them is a large task. I was hoping that Once I got everything right, backing up the settings would enable me to reinstall and import and be done with it. If I exported the settings and subsequently had to reinstall on the same machine, could I expect to import the settings and be back where I started before the break?
Norman,
Yes. But do not leave the existing backup files where they are, so that ATI doesn't find them. In fact, simply put them in a hidden folder on the same disk.
I don't understand?
I don't want to do new backups but simply use the existing by importing the settings backup.
if you want to use exiting backups, then from within ati, select the tab for browse for backup and then navigate to the existing backup of your choice. The backup(s), of course, must be on an active disk--i.e., one attached to the machine.
I don't understand?
I don't want to do new backups but simply use the existing by importing the settings backup.
Norman,
I understand you have 2 installations of ATI on the same computer. You cannot use the same backups files across the 2 installations. You can use the same backup settings but they should modified so that they point to different directories.
In addition, ATI tends to scan for existing backup files (I say tends, because I have disabled scanning on my installation and it stills comes up with archives that it found somewhere on my backup disk). So there is a chance that each installation will discover each other files and that will be very confusing unless you modify the backup files names so that it is clear which installation created which file.
If you have two different installations on one machine, I'm surprised both will work at all the prior install should deinstalled when installing the newer version.
Scott,
From post #3, I understood that the OP has 2 OS'es on his computer.
I should've been more clear, I multiboot (BING) and have numerous operating systems and versions of various systems on my Computer. They are on different drives and therefore are to ATI different computers. The locations of the backups are the same to all systems since they are on data drives on the same computer. I guess to boil it down, the question is when the settings backup is restored will it ever show the same settings as when it was backed up? So far I haven't seen that and have to correct each entry. If ATI rarely broke it wouldn't be as big a problem but with the amount of trouble I've had it is a major issue. By the way I've also tried a repair instead of reinstall and it doesn't fix whatever the problem is? Only a removal with ATI Cleaner and reinstall will bring the operation back to normal.
I doubt all OSs will ID drives in the same way.
Restoring settings doesn't entail that the data objects, the the tib files, will be correctly associated. this is ati's weakest aspect in any case, the inability to properly track the objects of tasks and correctly associate tibs with tasks. Not as bad as ati2012 that seemed to orphan backups idiopathically. Nonetheless, you can browse for backups in ati to find them and bring them into the fold, so to speak.
Scott,From post #3, I understood that the OP has 2 OS'es on his computer.
My apologies.
Thanks. I assume the answer is no. Guess I'll either live with it or move on to something else.