2012 Rescue Media - Networking Issues

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Build 7133 Rescue Media Boots OK and connects to the network. I can back up and restore OK to NAS. However....

eth0 is auto-negotiating a 100mbit/Full Duplex connection to my gigabit switch. Thus backups and restores are painfully slow.

If I use the options, deselect auto negotiate, and force the connection to 1000 mbit/Full Duplex, it sort-of works. The Switch port reinitializes and shows a 1 Gig connection. However, the ATIH 2012 Options screen then shows - 100 mbit/Half Duplex and "Cable Disconnected".

I can still run backups and restores to/from my NAS, but the speed is about 32 MB/sec - well short of what it should be.

Is there any fix for this? FYI - i have had issues with nearly every version / build of ATHI for the last few years when it comes to rescue media working well. I'm now trying the winPE approach, but for some reason the WinPE version has difficulty reading the partitions from my SSD. :(

BTW, I get the same network behavior from the Rescue media built using the ATHI desktop software or from the ISO file downloaded from Acronis and burned to DVD.

Thanks in Advance if there is a solution.

-JS-

sam 18/08/2012 - 20:33
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The rescue disk you create is the same as the download ISO. They are Linux based and as such not easily modified. The WinPE is the way to go. The SSD problem under WinPE is that you may not have appropriate driver support in the WinPE recovery disk you created. You can inject additional drivers into the .wim file used to create the WinPE to support your specific hardware.

sam 18/08/2012 - 20:56
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If it's the same computer that's always had the problems you could try adding a more standard NIC card and see if it helps. Some controllers don't work well with Linux.

dim 19/08/2012 - 00:39
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Thanks guys. I have built a WinPE .wim with latest NIC and AHCI Intel Rapid Storage drivers injected (same as the drivers loaded in my desktop Win7). I've always had varios issues with the Acronis Linux based recovery disks, so I always get the Plus Pack so I can build a WinPE recovery disk too. My WinPE disk/USB drive boots up fine and Acronis runs like a bat-outa hell as long as I'm backing up partitions from my hard disks (which are also running in SATA III / AHCI mode - same as the SSD). Its just not able to process the SSD quickly. It sees the SSD partitions just fine, but when backing them up, the backup stalls for 45-60 seconds every few minutes. So the backup takes forever to complete. It's not a network issue or the hard disk backups would have the same symptom... they don't.

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Does it make a difference if you adjust the HDD writing speed option?

What about if you don't include the Intel drivers (do the standard WinPE drivers work)?

What happens if you do the backup of the SSD and save it to an internal drive (you can erase it afterwards to regain the space)?

When the backup stalls is there still network activity or does that stop too?

Do normal file copies of large amounts of data (like multi-GB files) copy normally from the SSD?

Do you know what chipset is in the board (or the brand and model of the board)?

dim 19/08/2012 - 07:23
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This response to MudCrab relates to using the customized WinPE backup/recovery method (which unfortunately isn't related to the initial post):

HDD Writing speed? - not sure, havent set it; not sure how... During Acronis backups I'm only reading from the SDD and writing to the NAS (backing up SDD partitions). I've tried backing up from SDD to internal HDD and that stalls too. Backing up from Internal HDD to NAS is FAST !! Thats why I think in the case of the WinPE the issue is with the SDD (A OCZ Vertex4) running in AHCI mode. BTW.. when I run the Desktop version of Acronis 2012 from My Win7-64 desktop everything just works. I get backups of my SSD to my NAS at close to 80 MBytes/sec with no hiccups, pauses, etc.

WInPE with default disk drivers behaves the same - backups run, but with intermittent pauses (like its recovering from some error). The standard WinPE seems to have Realtek net drivers too. I can do a ipconfig /all at the command prompt in the running WinPE and it lists the RealTek GIG-E as the configured NIC. So in the end, the custom WinPE with latest REalTek and Rapid Storage drivers doesn't change the behavior.

WHen backing up SDD to NAS, ALL network activity STOPS for periods of 30 -60 seconds then resumes. When Backing up HDD to NAS, network activity does not stop. Both drives are SATA III and connected to the Intel P67 Chipset SATA III controller.

Normal File copies from the SSD to internal Hard disk? - I booted the WinPE and at command prompt used xcopy to copy c:\windows (SSD) to D:\temp (HDD). SUre enough - the files copied very fast for about 10 seconds, then PAUSE - for about 45 seconds, then resumed. THis repeated. I truly believe there is an issue with the WinPE drivers not handling the SSD reliably. During the pauses the HD access LED on my system flashed about once a second until the copy resumed... Indicating to me possibly an IO error and recovery retry. I'm not sure if WinPE has a system error log I can check to see whats happening. But I suspect this is due to the drivers in the WinPE not handling the SSD correctly. I'm not sure even if the INtel Rapid Storage driver I injected into WinPE is even being loaded.

Board is a mainstream Gigabyte ga-p67a-ud4-b3 with Intel P67 chipset.

dim 19/08/2012 - 16:10
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When you injected the drivers into the .wim, did you use both the iaAHCI.inf and the IaStor.inf files to do your injection?

dim 19/08/2012 - 18:46
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JamesF - Actually no... just the iastor.inf. Silly me ... Now that I look at the Intel driver directory, I see the iahci.inf in there. Let me inject both as well as my Realtek network and see what happens.

Hope you have identified the issue. ;)

-Jim-

dim 19/08/2012 - 19:05
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Also thought of something else you may want to try concerning your ethernet link speed. Try a crossover cable between your system and the switch just for fun.

dim 19/08/2012 - 19:22
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JamesF... You're the man !!! I rebuilt the winpe, injecting iaAHCI.inf first, then iaStor.inf, followed by my RealTek network driver.

I booted up the WinPE and now NO pauses copying files back and forth between SSD and HDD. Blazing fast !!!!. And the WinPE Realtek LAN driver comes up in Gigabit mode with no issues. Acronis now runs perfectly from the WinPE environment. Network backup/recovery/verify all run at 68-74 MBytes/sec. Disk-to-disk backup / restore from SSD to HDD are awesomely fast using SATA III disks.

I suspected all along it was an AHCI driver issue since my PC has to run with BIOS set to AHCI mode for all the SATA III stuff to work correctly.

So.... With WinPE working now, I don't need to worry about the Acronis LINUX environment not playing nice with my network. I always preferred to work with WinPE for recovery disks and have been doing that for 3 years now. The Linux environment on the Acronis ISO is too much of a black box for me.

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