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How to create a Disk backup as .tib (not .tibx)

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Steve Smith wrote:

Julien, Acronis have continually tried to harden their Cyber Protect components in the latest builds of ATI 2021 and ACPHO to prevent them from being 'tampered' with!

The only method to circumvent this and try to force use of .tib files for disk backups is as follows:

Open the Windows Services control panel (services.msc) then sort the name column by clicking on the heading so that you can see all the Acronis services first.

Select the Acronis Active Protection service and open its Properties then set the automatic start to Disabled.  Do the same with Acronis Cyber Protection Service, then do a Windows restart.

When restarted, both services should not be running (unless you have any Acronis tasks set to run on startup or open the ATI GUI).  You should then be able to change the script .tib.tis file / use the Powershell script to do the same.

Once done, you can reverse the changes to set the services back to Automatic start.

All of the above shouldn't be necessary if Acronis respected the user settings for Protection when turning off Acronis Active Protection!

Thanks ! Since I couldn't wait last night, I ended up doing an uninstall of ATI 2021, reinstall of ATI 2019, recreated 2 TIB backup tasks, both compressed and compressed, and then reinstalled of ATI 2021. I then ran some backup tasks overnight in a queue, one of which is still running.

I notice that services.msc won't allow the Acronis Active Protection service to be stopped. Major PITA. I will set it to disabled and reboot as soon as my current backup task is finished.

This behavior from ATI 2021 is really unacceptable. I'm still in my trial period. I have a boxed license for ATI 2021. Given that and the performance issues I found, I think I'm not going to activate it, and it's going to ebay. Sigh. I guess 2019 was the best version.

 

Enchantech wrote:

Can someone here explain to me why you want to break the usage of this new .tibx format?

My main reason is Acronis' ridiculous waste of storage space with *.tibx.

I had an incremental backup to *.tibx of 140GB and used A.s "clean up versions" to reduce it to the 1st full backup of 20GB.
The size of that folder (containing only 20GB of restorable data!) is now 120 GB.

With *.tib Acronis actually deletes cleaned-up files, with *.tibx id does [whatever].

...very next reason here:

Just now ATI 2021 did an incremental backup of ~310MB of changed data (according to UI) to *.tibx.
Well, that led to 4 changed *.tibx of 1GB each (in the past I had up to 8 changed tibx's) that I do need to sync to my 3 online storages - so instead of ~1GB traffic (3x 310MB, done in 15 minutes) I'll need ~3h to transfer 12GB.

When saving to *.tib ATI creates a single new file of ~310MB: BackupName_inc_bX_sY_vZ.tib that is transferred in 15 minutes to the 3 cloud storage providers.

 

So allow me to ask: What are the huge advantages of tibx that made me prefer it nevertheless?

madbrain wrote:

Thanks ! Since I couldn't wait last night, I ended up doing an uninstall of ATI 2021, reinstall of ATI 2019, recreated 2 TIB backup tasks, both compressed and compressed, and then reinstalled of ATI 2021. I then ran some backup tasks overnight in a queue, one of which is still running.

I notice that services.msc won't allow the Acronis Active Protection service to be stopped. Major PITA. I will set it to disabled and reboot as soon as my current backup task is finished.

This behavior from ATI 2021 is really unacceptable. I'm still in my trial period. I have a boxed license for ATI 2021. Given that and the performance issues I found, I think I'm not going to activate it, and it's going to ebay. Sigh. I guess 2019 was the best version.

 

I might have an easier/better solution (as long as ATI is for backup/restore only) to get rid of that annoying Cyber 'Protection' 'Service':
I use "Process Lasso" anyway (a very much to recommend software that keeps the system responsive even under heaviest load - freeware version suffices for responsiveness) that one can expand to PRO (price depending on the currency, if you pay in Brazilian Real it's only 21 US$ for a lifetime workstation license) .

PL PRO has a feature of "disallowed processes" (Options | Control | Disallowed Processes) where I added that crap (see below). Since then I can manipulate ATI's files (configs as well as *.tib(x)) as needed w/o reboot or anything.

Faster is editing the PLP config file by hand (File | Manually Edit Configuration):
[ProcessAllowances]
DisallowedProcesses=afcdpsrv.exe,anti_ransomware_service.exe,cyber-protect-service.exe,mms_mini.exe,mobile_backup_server.exe,mobile_backup_status_server.exe,syncagentsrv.exe,trueimagemonitor.exe

"You are not allowed to place hyperlinks inside the text, please, clear them."
So the link is bitsumDOTcom

Jörg Silker, rather than install Acronis then disable / prevent the majority of its background services / processes, you should either keep to an earlier version from 2019 or before, or else consider using a different application that doesn't bundle all the extra unwanted features.

See forum topic: Reflecting on a Post-ATI World where other users have been discussing alternative applications.

Steve Smith wrote:

Jörg Silker, rather than install Acronis then disable / prevent the majority of its background services / processes, you should either keep to an earlier version from 2019 or before, or else consider using a different application that doesn't bundle all the extra unwanted features.

See forum topic: Reflecting on a Post-ATI World where other users have been discussing alternative applications.

Thanks, Steve,

Unfortunately ATI is the only application I know that is able to image disks that are encrypted using Veracrypt FDE on block level (vs. file level). Your thread doesn't mention TrueCrypt/Veracrypt with a single word - so it doesn't suggest an alternative.

Regarding version 2019 or earlier: I invested ~2h to make ATI work to my needs. I would have to stumble over a pretty cheap offer to invest again - especially as I don't know yet what other issues ATI <2019 would bring up.

I would have thought that MR 8 would be capable of imaging encrypted disks at a block level but have not tested it in doing so.  They offer both a free and 30-day trial version of MR 8 which would be an easy way to test this as it can be installed alongside ATI with no issues.

Thank you for your work, Steve!

...still works for ATI21 Build 39287.

But one should IMO not replace all accourences of ".tibx" - the one in exclusions is still useful.

FWIW, I could edit the ATI script by setting the start type of Acronis Active Protection (TM) Service to Disabled and killing anti_ransomware_service.exe in the Task Manager. A PS session with admin rights wasn't allowed to kill it. No system restart needed.

Running a .tib disk backup now...

Edit:

... and it looks like it all works. Thanks a lot, Steve! Gives me a bit more time to look for an alternative.

It should still work for ACPHO provided that you can save the changes to the script .tib.tis XML data file without Acronis Active Protection stopping that action.