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Acronis TIH Reinstall Saga

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I write this for two reasons:
1) hopefully others that bump into these issues will be able to resolve them quicker
2) Acronis needs to do a better job with their Installation/Uninstallation issues for all products.

Product TIH 2010 PLUS
Issues:
1) temorary configuration change caused TIH to fail
2) Failed TIH couldn't be removed or reinstalled
3) Acronis offered NO support for a one year old product

8+ hr saga of events:
- Started with me stopping the TIH services to run some system tests on an XP Pro machine
- Not expecting to have to restart the TIH services, I launched TIH to review a backup ... but it would no longer run
- I rebooted the machine with the TIH services turned back on but TIH still wouldn't run
- Attempted to Uninstall TIH but it wouldn't uninstall (contact support ... Acronis no longer supports this product)
- Attempted to Renistall TIH but it wouldn't because it detected the current installation which it wanted removed first
- I manually deleted the program folder files and removed all acronis registry entries ... TIH would still not install (somehow still detecting previous installation)
- located/downloaded and ran the ACRONIS CLEANER ... no effect (cleaner states it is only for TIH 2011 however when it runs it says it includes TIH 2010)
- reinstalled all the acronis program files Plus Acronis registry from other backups and ran the ACRONIS CLEANER ... this time the cleaner removed the offending elements ... however the installer now Aborts with no reason given ... the MSI logs just provide a 1706 error (failed installation)
- turned off all security software plus attempted to install in Safe mode no change
- ran sfc /scannow plus reloaded latest windows installer still no change
- final solution suggested from a non Acronis Forum ... was to CREATE a NEW ADMIN USER ... logged in to this new user and installed to ALL users ... logged out of user ... removed user and data. Acronis now working agian.

Issues with this saga:
1) Acronis shouldn''t have DIED just because the Services were stopped ... when a program starts it should test for required services ... if services aren't found the software should either stop and ask the user to restart them OR just start the services automatically
2) Acronis's policy of absolutely no support for Mature products when clearly part of this was an issue with their UNINSTALL/INTALL process is unacceptable especially since this appears to be an ongoing issue ... they don't create REMOVAL tools for nothing
3) Acronis Cleaner appears to only clean if it finds certain elements ... the cleaner shouldn't need to determine what to remove it should just remove ALL known elements.

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Terry,

Did you stop or temporarily disable scheduler and other helper services?

A reboot would have restarted the services asssuming they hadn't been disabled.

Not all services auto start (as you've found), if you disabled RPC TIH will not work as it relies upon this service being started to run it's services.

The 2010 registry cleaner was removed when Microsoft withdrew one of the components it relied upon.

Without scheduler/sched2 TIH will only start the GUI, nothing else will work, this also goes for newer versions of TIH as well.

If you check registry you'll see many programs leave behind 'mentions' of themselves as annoying as this is, to some extent this is the way Windows registry was designed.

>The 2010 registry cleaner was removed when Microsoft withdrew one of the components it relied upon.

Hmmm I used the 2011 Cleaner not too long ago on a 2010 installation and it worked fine (on a W7 machine). Can you point me to a discussion about this?

I do empathize with the OP for the problem. Obviously Acronis operates at a very low-level in the OS, what with their snapman and try/decide and mounter drivers, and inserts into the Registry (filters) with same, and more should be done on their part to help users to understand how to uninstall properly, and avoid problems (I had BSODs myself--thankfully System Restore got me back to a point where I could un-install again and do it right the 2nd time).

Unfortunately Acronis have removed reference to the kb article explaining that Microsoft had withdrawn DevCon which was required for the 2010 uninstaller to work (it was a separate install to the actual uninstaller)

However the 2011 does work on a 2010 installation, but may not work everytime. I suspect it won't work properly on a 2012 installation as 2012 has extra entries in registry.

>may not work everytime.

Then the OP was just unlucky? I recall finding & using DevCon but don't remember what for (:o). Will have to review my notes to see if I kept track of exactly what I did to un-install 2010. It was some months ago now.

Thumbs-down to Acronis for a KB system that's become extremely difficult to navigate, what with links-to-links-to-other-kbs so complex you have to wonder if they're deliberately trying to confuse... :p