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ATIH 2012 - Difference b/t Full Backup and System Backup ?

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Hello,

Please help clarify the ATIH2012 user manual regarding creation of back-ups...

1) are full back-up and system backup TWO separate operations ?

2) how do I...step-by-step...perform "system backup" if this is separate than full backup (i.e. full bacup of C:/ disk )

pls let me know.
Thx,

SpeedRacer21

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1) Yes. System backup is a prepackaged backup system that creates:
- a disk and partition backup for the partition containing an OS and the active partition. This is sometimes not what is needed, so you'd better not rely on this to be sufficient for a system restore,
- a non-stop backup of the user folders. THis is often included in the backup above and might not include other folders/disks that you want to protect.

2) You need 2 or 3 things:
- first, you need a disk and partition backup that includes *all* partitions of the disk that contains your system, apps and the active partition. Use disk management (right click on computer on your desktop, choose manage, storage, disk management) to ascertain that scope,
- Second, *very important* you need an Acronis recovery disk that you have actually tested: you have booted your computer on it and you have restored a couple of files from the backup made above. Note that ATI on the recovery CD will not show drive letters that might not be the same as in Windows. Look at disk labels,
- Third maybe, any file backup (i recommend against using Non stop backup) to backup any content that you excluded from the backup above or that is not on the system disk. You can use another disk and partition backup as well.

Pat,

Thanks for clarifying my question & providing comments.

Sounds like the key point is to create the Rescue Media CD and test it for a recovery.
If I make a full-backup...my computer can be recovered pending the CD works correctly.

Thanks,
Dirk H.

I just purchased TI 2012 2 weeks ago. Suffice to say that I don't understand it. I was previously using TI 2010. A tech walked me through installation, and I now have 3 validated full disk restores saved on my external USB hard drive. I have made a bootable media disk.
Now, my dilemma is how to test it. I don't know the steps for safely testing without losing my system. I have also requested a refund, since I bought both the disk and plus for $50.
I asked for a refund, since I am not very technical, and think I got over my head. I thought it would be simple. But the request went in at the end of December, and I have yet to hear from Acronis.
Last year, I was using TI 2010 which I understood a little better, and when I had a hard drive failure, I could not restore to a new hard drive. I took it to a local tech who also could not use Acronis to restore. So I had to start to rebuild my system all over--took days.
Note: I've also made a backup using Windows 7 backup and restore. Am I wasting my time with it?

Single home user:
Windows 7 Home Premium
Dell XPS 410 with 4G memory
HD: Western Digital 500G
Backup: WD USB HD 640G

Windows 7 backup and restore can produce *system images* when you have W Enterprise or Ultimate. They work well. Just like any backup software you have to try to restore your disk to make sure you can do it.

With ATI, you can use the recovery CD to recover *files* only from a full disk image. THis allows you to 'test' the recovery CD.

So in order to test recovery, I can just recover a file or folder without doing a full disk restore?

Sorry, I meant that if I only do full disk backups, I can still just restore one file from the backup without risking a full disk restore?

Yes, you can do that from the recovery CD.

Thanks. I will try tomorrow. I plan to copy all my pictures to a CDR and then delete them and try to restore from Acronis.

Robert,

If these are your pictures, you don't need to delete them to try to restore one of them... I tend to be super cautious with irreplaceable content. CDR are not that reliable. Before you delete irreplaceable content, make sure you have a couple of backups on different media mabye using different backup/copy/sync technology.

Thanks. I will only delete a few that I have a copy of on my USB drive and my CDR drive. The ones I delete will not be critical.
It makes me wonder though, if things are that tenuous, how reliable is it to depend on a couple of full backups (image) with Acronis, an image with Windows 7 for restore after a disaster. Is there "Anything" that will will reliably restore an image, so you don't have to check it everytime you make one? And how reliable is that Acronis bootable media CD. I will find out today.
Thanks for all your help and advice.

The type of backup which offers the best chance of being able to reproduce a duplicate or replacement disk is the disk option backup which is a backup that includes all partitions or includes everything on the disk. Within Windows, it is in "Disk Mode" where you select the disk as the option. Note my example below.

Also listed in a little picture guide in creating a backup task. Along the left margin of this web page is 2012 help links under the "Useful Linls" header.

I have created backups with verify OK, but my problem is that I am just not computer literate enough to restore. Few people talk about the basic steps of restore. I'm afraid I got way over my head with Acronis, and the only thing I can do is continue to backup and hope that if the day comes when I need restore (I also have Plus) I can get a local tech to help me. I even tried to do file backups and could not figure out how to restore one file. I've gotten too long in the tooth to go through more learning.
I did have Acronis 2010 backup with Plus last year when I had a crash. The local tech replaced the hard drive, but could not figure out how to use the restore on my USB HD, so he reloaded Windows 7 and I built it back up from scratch.
I'm sorry if I don't make myself clear. I'm just kicking myself right now for buying the extra optional disc.

IF the day comes and you don't know how to/aren't able to restore, it won't be a time to learn.

Follow Grover's guide for doing a full disk restore and go theoruhg all the steps except the final PROCEED. This will prevent the restore from actualy proceeeding but will assure you that the bootcd can find all your drives and the backup file. Since you say you can validate your archives, then with the above you've basically guaranteed that you can do a restore if you need to.

Don't forget to take your time to go through relevent parts of the user guide -- it all the info and more that you'd want for making backups and recovering them, especially full disk backups of your system disk and doing select file backups.

http://www.acronis.com/support/documentation/

Btw, doing an ati restore is genrally much easier and much quicker than reinstalling win and programs etc. To avoid having to learn how to use the program your tech guy did the harder thing that took longer. I'd recommend considering getting another tech guy.

I have uninstalled Acronis 2012 (had it uninstalled by Acronis tech), got a refund and reverted to Acronis 2010 which I had understood better. At least I was able to reinstall files. Since I will buying a new computer later this year, 2010 is good enough for me. I also use a drag and drop of essential folders to my USB HD.
Thanks for all your help and advise.