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I've installed a new hard drive on my computer due to failure of the original.  The computer came as Windows7, I upgraded it to Windows 10.  The new drive (from the computer mfgr) came as Windows 7.

I'd like to restore my entire drive from backup.  Do I need to upgrade the computer back to Windows 10 before I do this?  Or will the restore rewrite over everything leaving me with Windows 10 anyway?

Upgrading first seems safest, but I wanted to check with the group!

In addition, should I do the restore from the recovery disk or first install True Image onto the "new" hard drive and run it from there?

Thanks,

Keith

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Keith, some questions to ask first:

Do you have an ATIH 2016 backup image of your system prior to the disk drive failure?

Do you have an ATIH 2016 Recovery media (CD or USB drive) that you created on that same system?

Have you tested that you can boot from the Recovery Media and see your drive(s)?

If you can answer Yes to the above questions, then the way forward would be to boot from the Recovery Media, then depending on how 'safe' you want to be; either create a backup image of your new Windows 7 drive to an external or second drive, or restore your original Windows 10 backup from the drive where you have stored it.

If you restore your Windows 10 backup over the new Windows 7 drive, it will erase everything on that drive first, then restore the exact partition structure and files etc that were present on the Windows 10 drive.  There is no need in this scenario to worry about upgrading to Windows 10 from 7 etc.

As your system has previously been upgraded to Windows 10, you could obtain the Windows 10 media and do a clean install of this, but if you do so, you will obviously lose everything currently installed on the Windows 7 drive and will need to reinstall your programs and data etc.

Thanks Steve:

Some additional info:

Do you have an ATIH 2016 backup image of your system prior to the disk drive failure?  YES!!!

Do you have an ATIH 2016 Recovery media (CD or USB drive) that you created on that same system?  No, but I can create one from on the same computer with the new hard drive (Install ATIH then create recovery media).

Have you tested that you can boot from the Recovery Media and see your drive(s)?  YES!!

I do have an ATIH 2016 recover CD from another computer, and it does allow me to see the drive and files of my backup.

It sounds like I can boot from the ATIH 2016 recovery disk I have, and restore the last backup I have (Windows 10) over the new drive (Windows 7).

Do I have that right?

And is it safer to do a backup of the new Windows 7 drive before I do anything else?

 

Thanks,

 

keith

kmt123 wrote:

I do have an ATIH 2016 recover CD from another computer, and it does allow me to see the drive and files of my backup.

It sounds like I can boot from the ATIH 2016 recovery disk I have, and restore the last backup I have (Windows 10) over the new drive (Windows 7).

Do I have that right?

And is it safer to do a backup of the new Windows 7 drive before I do anything else?

Keith...you have it right...And...it is always safer to do a backup before any clone or restore operation.  So, if you have the disk space, recommend backing up the new Windows 7 drive before restoring a previous image of Windows 10.

Regards,

FtrPilot

Keith, it is up to you whether you want to take a backup of the new Windows 7 drive before wiping it out with your Windows 10 backup - benefit is to give you a means of getting back to where you are today should anything go wrong with the Windows 10 restore - the downside is the extra time it takes and the space on your external drive to store it.

Other than that, if you already have a standard Acronis recovery CD that works on your computer then you should be good to go ahead which ever way you decide.  The standard recovery media is Linux based and should be the same for each of your PC's.

Regards, Steve

Thanks to all!  I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping for the best!

 

-Keith

Ok, whew.  I guess I had a good news / bad news scenario.

1) I backed up the new Windows 7 drive.  No problem.

2) I attempted to restore my most recent Acronis file set via the Acronis Recovery CD.  Failure.  Received the error shown in the attached screen shot.

3) I attempted to restore my 2nd most recent Acronic file set via the Acronis Recovery CD.  PERFECT.  Good restore, no issues.  Back to Windows 10, from around January 14.

4) I still want all my files created/modified between 1/14 and my most recent backup.  I booted back into windows and tried to access the external drive containing my backups.  Nothing, the drive letters for all my devices were messed up, couldn't accesss the external drive, etc.  Tried to power down, wouldn't complete until I unplugged the uSB plug from the external drive.  I was thinking I am now totally messed up, the drive is dead.

5) I reboot into the Acronis Recovery CD, start Acronis and have visibility (without problem) to the entire external drive.  So access via Windows is a problem, from the Recovery CD (Unix) things seem ok.  I try to move my most recent set to another drive, but get a similar/same error as the one attached here. 

6) I still need some of the files in the most recent set.  Is there a way to get to them?  Can I CHKDSK (will that help).  Is there a UNIX boot disk that will enable access.  I don't need to restore the entire backup, just want to get some of the newer files/directories.

Any (and all) help is appreciated.

Thanks,

keith

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Keith, thanks for your feedback and results.  It seems as if you have a bad sector issue with your external USB drive that needs to be addressed.

Have you tried plugging in the drive after Windows 10 has booted fully to see if you can look at the content via Windows Explorer?  If you can, you could try opening the .TIB image file and see if you could access the desired folders.

If you can't successfully view the drive from within Windows, then you will need to use an alternative utility program to try to recover the bad sectors, if possible to do so.

One utility that I have used for this purpose is Hiren's Boot CD - version 15.2 - you will need to download the ISO file and burn this to a CD.  Boot from the CD and select DOS Tools from the boot menu, then select HDAT2 which will allow you to try to repair the bad sectors.  You will need to connect the USB drive before running HDAT2.
See the attached PDF document about using this utility.

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From Windows, you could also use chkdsk to check this second disk. Clearly, this is a data storage error.

To recover the files from the backup, you could also try to open the latest TIB files using Window explorer (ATI needs to be installed on Windows for the filters to be there). If Windows can open the TIB files, you could grab the latest files and copy them back to their location using copy and paste.

If WIndows explorer opening fails, you could try to copy the TIB file to another name on the same disk or another disk and try again the procedure above.

Thanks Pat!  From WIndows I can't access the drive, only from within ATI recovery.  Tonight I'll try to recover using the tool mentioned above.

-Keith

Just curious, but if you go into Windows Disk Management from control panel?  Does it show the drive at all there, but not in Windows Explorer?  I've had a few USB drives that don't automatially assign a drive letter so they don't show up in Windows Explorer.  However, they are in computer management and then I assign a drive letter there and then I'm back in business for file navigation within Windows. 

If this is the case, manually assignign a drive letter shoudl be fine.  If you find this to be recurring, try this:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/windows-7-does-not-assign-a-drive-letter/3c22131a-bd91-40a8-a060-c9484f571824

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