Building new system need to transfer programs
My current system is Win7 64, starting to have physical problems possibly MOBO or CPU, has Acronis 2014 and since it was custom built I don't know if WIn 7 is OEM or not. I have a new unopened Win 7 64 bit CD that is OEM. Data files are not an issue, programs are. The number of programs loaded on current system is a major headache -reloading on a new clean system will be difficult, time consuming and probably impossible in some cases.
I would like to get Acronis 2017 on the new system and restore everything from Acronis 2014 backup on old system then update windows with the new CD (assuming old system was OEM and not transferable) on new system.
I realise drvers and MAC addess for old system is different to new system.
Is this transfer possible?


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Thanks, I had just discovered the Universal Restore but all the documentation in on TI 2016 -assume 2017 has same?
Can you expand on the boot method or point me at further explanation please? The current system is about 4 years old the new is ASUS Sabertooth with Intel 6700 and I seem to recall a physical pin setting on the MOBO for some type of secure boot -which I have no use for.
I 'd have to get into the BIOS on this current system is to ascertain what the boot method is - which I can't do right now obviously.
I see two options on 2017 TI. I am not totally opposed to subscriptions but I like owning things -any thoughts on the 2017 True Image; is the subscription worth getting for telephone support/ any imminent upgrades, fixes?
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Peter, for the boot method, please see webpage: Check if your PC uses UEFI or BIOS which will show you how to check this aspect. Secure Boot is a feature of the newer UEFI boot mechanism designed by Microsoft to prevent using 'unsupported OS's' such as various flavours of Linux or older versions of Windows.
If your old system uses MBR / BIOS aka Legacy boot, then you would need to check whether your new system can also work in Legacy mode - this would be an option within the UEFI settings, assuming that the new system defaults to using UEFI / EFI.
For ATIH 2017 the two options are to purchase a Perpetual License which means you buy once and use for as long as it works, or alternatively the Subscription license which you need to renew each year (or whenever the subscription period expires) - if you fail to renew the subscription then after 30 days the product will become unusable for anything other than to restore any existing local backups you may have created, all other functions will be unavailable. With 2017 you will get a minimum of 1 year of free support with both options, but subscription extends this to the whole period of the subscription, plus you also get free upgrades within that same period.
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Steve,
Current system is BIOS, new one supports UEFI. It is unclear yet whether there is a 'legacy' mode but I have to assume that there would be outrage in the Linux community if the ASUS Sabertooth BIOS prevented anything but Microsoft OS from booting.
Getting any answer from ASUS is like talking to a brick wall.
I appreciate the prompt answer and thanks for all your help.
Peter
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I don't have an ASUS, but pretty sure the bios allows CSM/legacy boot. However, on most current motherboards, UEFI and secure boot are turned on as the default optoins and enabling legacy/CSM mode is usually something that the user has to do. This may help as it has a lot of options to look for with common bios firmware and a screenshot of another ASUS menu too
https://neosmart.net/wiki/enable-legacy-boot-mode/
Turning on Legacy Boot Support
Once inside the UEFI setup and configuration section, you’ll be presented with a number of options and parameters that can be configured for the firmware environment. The option you’re looking for has many names, depending on the make and model of the PC or laptop and the EFI firmware. Some of the possible setting names you’re looking for will include, the bold values are what should be selected.
- Legacy Support (On/Off or Enabled/Disabled)
- Boot Device Control
- Legacy CSM (On/Off or Enabled/Disabled)
- Launch CSM (On/Off or Enabled/Disabled)
- CSM (On/Off or Enabled/Disabled)
- UEFI/Legacy Boot (Both/Legacy Only/UEFI Only)
- Boot Mode (Legacy Support)
- Boot Option Filter (UEFI and Legacy/UEFI First/Legacy First/Legacy Only/UEFI Only)
- UEFI/Legacy Boot Priority (UEFI First/Legacy First/Legacy Only/UEFI Only)
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Thanks, I now have subscription TI 2017 and have just finished the universal download. Much to do; ASUS documentation is spectactularly lacking on the use of the two 30 and 35mm MOBO fans that are not installed on the MOBO and which cool the VRM heat fins -these being covered by 'armour' on the Sabertooth MOBO. Hopefully this system will stay up long enough to sort all these problems out.
On the current system I am getting the occasional Windows page fault in non-paged area which could be OS mischief, CPU, MOBO, memory, power supply, almost anything S/W or H/W.... thus the need for a new system.
Thanks again,
Peter
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Peter, on your current system with the occasional Windows page faults - one method that I have used to try to work out whether this type of issue is being caused by the Windows OS / OS hard drive, or other components, is to boot up a Linux Live CD/DVD and run that for a while and see if that pops up any errors or not.
Most of the current Linux distributions provide a Live DVD or ISO that can be used - Ubuntu Linux tends to be the one that I go with as is one of the more 'friendly' ones and fairly easy to get used to. The ISO images tend to be around 1.5GB download and will offer a choice of 'Try now' or Install - the Try now option is the Live trial which will not touch your installed Windows OS - all being run from memory. See TheLiveCD List for a page full of links to the various distributions - this doesn't look to have been updated for a few months but the links should take you to the most recent versions on the source pages. For Ubuntu the latest is 16.10.
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Steve,
Thanks, I will give it a try later and once I get a new system I'll run stress tests and Power supply tests on the current system. To do that now would be folly. For now I am trying to build a USB stick with the universal recovery on it. I have the basic part done but I need to add the HAL HDD controller and chipset drivers in order that the restore knows what the source drive is and the destination etc.
So far there's a catch-22; I will likely use a 3TB blue WD HD type WDC-WD30EZRZ for the source. The WD site where I am trying to download the driver says that Win 7 OS will automatically fetch the driver and appears not to have any download available. Helpfully it says to get it manually go through device manager and update the driver. Not very helpful in this Acronis restore scenario is it?
Intel 6700K just seems to have downloads for graphic drivers:
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Proc…-
Any ideas on where to get these wretched HAL, HD and chipset drivers?
Any help will be much appreciated; I can't be the first to try this??
Peter
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You do not need drivers for the individual HDDs. For Windows, generic Microsoft HDD drivers are used. You only need driver for the HDD controller, and the intsallation media has drivers for AMD and Intel SATA controllers (in AHIC mode) - drivers for Raid Mode are not included.
You may also need the chiptset driver and, possibly the NIC driver, in addition to the Video Driver (for the on-board video of the i7-6700K CPU). The generic drivers on the installation media may be sufficient.
Ian
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" You only need driver for the HDD controller " - excuse my ignorance but what specifically am I looking for and where do I find this? The Intel 6700K box has no installation media in it and on their website I only found the graphics 6700K drivers noted above.
The ASUS Sabertooth Z170 MOBO does have a CD with a chipset sub-directory on it but it's a setup.exe so I am reluctant to run this on my only good system that isn't a Sabertooth.
Peter
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The critical thing is the dirver for the Intel HDD controller. You do not want an exe, you want what used to be call "Floppy drivers". I could not find them on the Asus site, but I found them on the AsRock site. These drivers are written by Intel, not the motherboard manufacturer, and will work with any Z170 board. There are two groups of drivers, X86 (32 bit) and X64 (64 bit). You would need the X64, and need the either the raid or non-raid version depending on how you intend setting up the HDDs. You can work out wich is which by viewing the *.inf file. You use the iaAHCIC if not using raid and the iaStorA (Rapid Storage Technology Driver) if you are using raid.
Ian
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Intel has newer drivers available directly at: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/55005/Intel-Rapid-Storage-Technology-Intel-RST-
current is Version: 15.2.0.1020 (Latest) Date: 10/20/2016.
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I looked on the Intel sight and could not find them - probably another seniors' moment ....
Ian
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