ATI Bootable Media backup to microSD?
I wondered whether anyone's tried using their microSD card reader as a destination drive to save a backup or image to? Do you have to hunt down the specific drivers for your SD card reader slot first and integrate it into the Bootable Media environment? If so, what's the easiest procedure? Thanks in advance!


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I routinely use the microSD slot in my Surface Pro as a target for my full backup, BUT I have never tried to do this from the bootable media, only normal ATI2020 operation (any reasons I SHOULD use the bootable media ? ...). A few days ago, just as a test for the new .tibx format, I did a full RESTORE of my Windows C: drive from the bootable media ... worked like a charm.
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Acronis recommends that recovery operations of OS system disks be performed using bootable media rather than the Windows installed True Image application.,
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Enchantech wrote:Acronis recommends that recovery operations of OS system disks be performed using bootable media rather than the Windows installed True Image application.,
Thank you, Enchantec !-
Any reason given for this ? I mean, I have ported Windows systems from old machines to new machines this way, including to different new hardware and never had any problems... I mean, it's no big deal to do the last backup before moving using the bootable media, but what could potentially go wrong ?
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Heiner, the main issue with attempting recovery of the Windows OS from within an active Windows is that this requires the Boot Configuration Data to be modified to launch a temporary Linux based kernel environment to perform the recovery.
The Linux application does not have support for such as RAID mode drives, and may not have drivers for some NVMe M.2 SSD's etc.
One other important issue is that any failure of the recovery using this method can leave the BCD unchanged, i.e. not reverted to the state needed to boot correctly into Windows, thus leaving the PC in a non-bootable state!
Personally, I only use the rescue media (WinPE based) for any OS drive recoveries - this is the only method available if doing a bare-metal type recovery with no installed OS.
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Sorry guys !
Just being stupid here (first cup of coffee in the morning ...) ! I just saw that you two were talking about RESTORE ...
Now that's understood - and that's what I have always done. My REAL question was, in line with the header of this topic, whether there is really any need to perform a BACKUP operation using the bootable media ...
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Heiner, the answer to your 'real question' is .. it depends!
Scheduled backups are only possible from the Windows app so there are no options for this in the rescue media.
If you want to make a backup of a computer where ATI is not installed, then rescue media allows for this.
Some users prefer to use the rescue media rather than have any interaction (or interference) by or with the Windows OS or other installed applications such as security apps etc.
I get asked to help family & friends with their computer issues (hardware or software), and I will typically make a full disk backup using my rescue media before doing anything further.
Using the rescue media when there are issues with bad sectors or a failing disk drive, can also help reduce the number of read or write operations to that drive, so as to improve the chances of getting a successful backup image before the drive fails completely. The same can be true when attempting to recover data from a failed drive that is still accessible but non-booting.
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Concur with Steve on this completely.
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Thanks, guys !-
Something to keep in the back of my mind ...
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Agree too, that using the bootable media is preferred to create drive back-up or images. This was the method I used in my IT days to mass deploy computers, howerver we used a network boot method.
Unfortunately I'm still unable to make my SD slot recognized in the bootable media after running the MVP ATI bootable media builder. I've included all the drivers listed from the device manager, as well as the .inf file (disk.inf) listed in the 'details' of the drive. Just wonder if I'm missing anything else. I put all of them in the appropriate x64 folder in 'Drivers_Custom'. Otherwise, this is a fantastic tool for building a WinPE bootable media.
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Chris,
Even though the injection of drivers may succeed it does not mean that the device will work. Do you know how the SD reader reports itself in Windows? Storage devices report as either fixed (internal) or removable (external). If your reader does not report as a removable device than it will not be recognized as a storage device.
I have a feeling that these card readers report themselves as multimedia devices rather than storage devices and that would be a problem.
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FWIW: Images of my Surface Pro 4 microSD properties in Win10 and initiating a bootable media (made with ATI2020 'simple' mode) backup to that device (disk 3, F:) ...
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Your issue is the formatting on the SD card. It is formatted exFAT. This is becoming common with storage marketed to work on both Windows a MAC. I believe that True Image has a bug is this regard. It seems that it expects to see NTFS format for target storage device to write to. Changing the format to NTFS I believe should resolve the issue.
Edited due to misunderstanding referenced below.
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Enchantech wrote:Your issue is the formatting on the SD card. It is formatted exFAT. This is becoming common with storage marketed to work on both Windows a MAC. I believe that True Image has a bug is this regard. It seems that it expects to see NTFS format for target storage device to write to. Changing the format to NTFS I believe should resolve the issue.
No issue over here. ATI2020 is working fine for me ...
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Heiner,
Thank you for replying. So your post was aimed at Chris to say that your Surface card reader works fine for use as backup then.
This is par for the course it seems, some users readers work, others do not.
I will edit my post.
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Well not good news. I have both looked at my microSD reader's properties and it reports as 'removable'; and I have formatted the card using NTFS, but it's still not recognized in the MVP boot media. I've already backed up my entire drive as a single image using an external USB drive, but prior to that, had to temporarily disable Bitlocker. So at this point I'm not going to consider backups to my microSD card, and just stick to my ext. drive. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone.
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