can't recover image to a partition
I took an image of my hard drive because I got a new on and want to move it. I partitioned the new drive to two partitions. I put an Image of XP on the first partition but when I tried to put the image ow Windows 7 on the second partition I was unable to select the partition. The only choice I was given was the whole drive which would have wiped out the XP partition. I just bought the newest version of True image because the older version I was using isn't compatible with Windows 7. I think I wasted my money.
You're welcome.
Sounds like you are trying to do a clone. TI only clones whole drives. Look at restoring an image.
I see no option for restoring an image. Recovering disks and file folders is the only possibility here. How is moving one image of a hard drive partition to another hard drive partition different than restoring? I did it with XP. I made an image of my XP partition on my old hard drive and put it on a partition on my new one. Why won't it work with Windows 7 doing the same thing?
I am using Acronis Home 2010.
Does the second partition partition show up in the list of available partitions at all?
What happens if you try it with the TI rescue CD?
Is it a primary partition?
Stephen,
Is there any possibility that your installation of win7 is a two partition installation containing a separate boot partition?
Good point GroverH. My W7 upgrade did that on a machine and Wl7 ended up in a logical drive.
I don't think that should matter. My Win7 install is the two partition type, and with a walkthrough of a restore, I can choose only the Win7 OS partition, and the next step makes an unallocated partition I have available as a restore target, so methinks something else is afoot here.
Is it possible that the partition you have remaining is not large enough to hold the "used" size of your Win7 archive? If ATI doesn't think a target has the capacity, it won't enable it to be picked.
Yes the second partition shows up but I am unable to select it. It isn't on the list but is is shown on the graphic depicting the hard drive.
I don't think so I did a clean install so I don't think there is a separate boot partition. how could I tell?
I made the image from an 80 GB hard drive but it is only using about 15 GB.
The partition I am trying to move it to is and 80 GB partition so there shouldn't be a space issue. I wouldn't think.
Have a look in Windows Disk Management Storage. It will give a graphical representation of all your disk's partitions.
So it's a foramtted partition you're trying to restore to? For disk image restores, keeping the target "unallocated" (i.e. "raw") pretty much makes it an unambiguous process (IMO).
A screenshot from Disk Manager of the volume you're trying to restore to might give us a little more insight.
EDIT: And a screenshot of the partition details of the restore archive would also greatly help (right-click the archive, and select "Details").
Where do I locate the disk management storage?
So If I delete the partition and leave the space unallocated Acronis will let me restore the image there?
Screen shot of the volume I and trying to restore to will follow.
here is the screen shot of the volume i am trying to restore it to.
here is a screen shot of my options for restoring Win 7 to the unallocated space. It just gives me the option of using the whole disk not the second partition. sorry wrong screen shot here is the one I meant to show.
Yes, you can restore to unallocated space, as long as it was a "disk/image" backup and not a "files/folders" backup.
To get to the Windows Disk Manager, click the start menu button, right-click on "My Computer" and select "Manage". When the Computer Management window appears, select "Disk Management" in the left pane.
Also a suggestion: I would apply meaningful labels to each of your disk partitions. In the backup/restore world, you never want to rely on drive letters for identification any more. Having meaningful volume labels adds an additional layer of protection when youi're trying to figure out what's what.
here is a screen shot of my options for restoring Win 7 to the unallocated space. It just gives me the option of using the whole disk not the second partition. sorry wrong screen shot here is the one I meant to show.
The recovery options don't look right for a single partition restore. I think we need to go back to the "What to recover" restore wizard screen and see just what type of archive we're dealing with.
how do we do this. Would this work better if I were doing it from the rescue CD rather than from Windows XP?
here is the Disk management screen shot it looks the same to me as the one I just posted. Did you want one of the disk that has the Win 7 I am trying to put on this hard drive?
By the way this hard drive is a solid state drive if that makes a difference.
I can't see anything wrong with the destination. I think the problem may lie with what selection is being made (or what partition selection(s) are offered) at the "What to recover" step. A screenshot of this would help.
here are two shot of what to recover. #1 is what I get when I click on recover my disks,
#2 is what shows up when I click browse. This is the folder where the whole Win 7 backup is on my External drive.
It's this screen in the wizard that I'm interested in. This shows what's available in the archive set.
I hope this is what you are looking for. I have to go shovel snow for a while. I should be back in 30- 45 minutes.
Well, I'm at a bit of a loss. For some reason, TIH thinks you can only do a "full disk" restore.
If you check only the "NTFS (Unlabeled) (C:)" partition checkbox, when you click "Next" are you shown a screen like I've attached?
yes that is the exact screen I get.
OK. On your original disk (your current system?) you were running XP, and then installed Win7 to a free partition? Or was it the other way around?
Either way, you shouldn't need to restore the MBR and track 0, as that was probably selected when you restored the XP partition?
Leave MBR and track 0 unchecked.
For "Partition 1-1", select your unallocated space as the target location. In the "Partition Type" recovery settings section, select "Change default" and set the partition type to "Primary" AND "Active".
For "Partition C", select your remaining unallocated space. In the "Partition Type" recovery settings section, you will probably see that TIH has changed the partition type to "Logical". Click "Change default" and set the partition type to "Primary", BUT DO NOT mark the partition as "Active".
If you install your new disk and the system doesn't boot, or only boots to XP, you will need to use your Win7 install DVD to repair the system. You may have to run "repair" more than once, but I've found that eventually the Win7 repair system succeeds more than it fails.
Let us know how it goes...
will do. thanks for the help
You are right I should have labeled them. Can I change the labels now so I know which partition I am dealing with?
Is partition "C" my XP partitiion? I just figured out that the "C" partition is the label it had on the other drive so I am trying the restore now. I will keep you posted.
It's the "live system" partitions you want clearly labelled, so you don't accidentally choose one of them when doing a restore operation. Volume labels can be changed at any time.
Before you commit, through all of this (and after reading your fist post) I was assuming you were running XP and Win7 successfully as dual-boot on your original drive, and the drive you're now restoring to is to be its "drop in" replacement?
If not, now's the time to clarify...
Well it loaded Windows 7 all right and the XP partition shows in windows Explorer. but it boot to Windows 7 and does not give me the dual boot choice. What do I do now? I wa rumming XP AND WINDOWS 7 successfully before but it was the RC version of Windows 7. When I bought the new drive I restored the XP image from the old drive and installes a new version of 7 in the ther partition. I was having many problems with it so I installed Windows 7 on the old drive and it is running fine so I figured I could use an image of that one on the new drive. That is what is running now but how do I get XP t o boot also?
You can run the Win7 install DVD and select the repair option. It should find the XP installation and identify it as a "previous windows version".
If it does, select it as the OS to repair and it should add it to the boot list.
If that doesn't work, since you're already able to boot Win7, there are other options available, but they're a bit more involved...
i'll try that tomorrow
That didn't work the only OS it found was Windows 7.
I know XP is still there and apparently healthy. How do I get it to come out and play?
Here is a screen shot of disk manager.
You should be able to use BCDEdit to add a bootloader entry for your XP installation.
This link has pretty good information on using BCDEdit.
At the bottom of the first post there is an example of what you want to do. Be sure to heed the warnings and back up your existing BCD database before changing/adding entries.
Oops, since your Win7 installation has the 100MB system partition, the example given in the link I provided will not work as it's shown, as the Win7 bootloader would just get called again, resulting in a loop to the system chooser screen.
For all the instructions below I'll be referring to your Disk Manager screenshot, so all drive letters referenced should match your system.
All the following commands need to be run from an elevated CMD session, i.e. right-click the "Command Prompt" system accessory and select "Run as administrator".
After you've backed up your BCD database per instructions in the link, do the following:
- Start Disk Manager, and assign a drive letter to the "Sysem Reserved" partition. Since your DVD is drive D: assign it drive F:.
From the elevated CMD session:
bcdedit /create {ntldr} /d "Windows XP"
bcdedit /set {ntldr} device partition=F:
bcdedit /set {ntldr} path \ntldr
bcdedit /displayorder {ntldr} /addlast
Select the System Reserved Partition and copy the XP boot files:
f:
xcopy /h e:\boot.ini
xcopy /h e:\ntldr
xcopy /h e:\ntdetect.com
Exit the CMD session. If you don't want the System Reserved partition to have a drive letter, you can remove it. Reboot, and you should see the system chooser screen with "Windows XP" as a boot option.
Good luck!
when I get to the second step set{ntldr} device partition=F
I get an error message saying An error has occurred setting the element data. the request is not supported.
If I get that far how do I select the System Reserved Partition in the cmd prompt?
You did assign drive letter F: to the system reserved partiton? And did you include the colon after the drive letter? All the BCDEdit commands have to be exact...
maybe I forgot the colon. hold on
I did for get to use the colon now how do I
Select the System Reserved Partition and copy the XP boot files:
f:
and if all this is successful the XP choice will show up when I reboot?
To change drives in a CMD session, simply type the drive letter you want to go to:
F: followed by pressing "Enter"
The command prompt will always show you where you are within the filesystem. If it shows "F:\>", you're in the right place :-).
When you're done, do a:
bcdedit /v
The current settings in the BCD database will be shown. The last entry should look like this (the "identifier" may be different, but everything else should be the same):
Windows Legacy OS Loader
------------------------
identifier {466f5a88-0af2-4f76-9038-095b170dc21c}
device partition=F:
path \ntldr
description Windows XP
looks good I am going to reboot now. see you on the other side.
We have liftoff. Every thing is right with the world now. Thanks so much for the help.
The only reason I want XP is because my wife decided she didn't like Windows 7 when I had the beta version running with the beta version of IE8. it didn't show her gmail the way she was used to seeing it. I will try the newest version of IE8 and see how it works. If she doesn't whine I won't need XP any longer. She uses ?IE because that is what she knows She doesn't like computers so if she can do the same old stuff she is "happy" if women can ever be happy.
You're welcome. It's nice to see that everything worked out.
so far so good